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Mazda MPV, Van
Mar 12, 2006 (1:29 pm)
Hey everybody, my wife and i have about $15,000 to spend and I see plenty of low mileage MPV's for sale all over California, usually being former short-term rentals/shuttles. I drove an MPV and LOVED the way it drove, thought the interior was sweet and generally wife and I adored it. Problem is, I'm not sure if the reliability is up to the old school Mazda I grew up with. So many Ford parts, Duratec motor/Ford Transmission, I read in Consumer Reports about bad trannys and other things. JD Power rated it really low in mechanical quality. How do you think the Mazda stands vs. Dodge Caravan, Kia Sedona? My dad has a 1996 Mazda MPV and that thing is bullet proof!! He's driven that thing over 110,000 and only replaced batteries and tires! Has the same brakes on it as from factory, everything! Timing belt had to be changed, obviously, but that rig is solid!! That being said, it had a REAL Mazda engine, not a Ford. What do you guys think?
#7887 of 8223 Re: Should I buy an MPV?? [gurneyhalleck]
Mar 12, 2006 (6:16 pm)
my '02 LX has been bullet proof for 42k miles.
Duratec supposedly one of Ford's best, proven longevity and track record.
Tranny is from Japan, aside from some software issues on some of the years, it has been a solid unit.
No complaints here. I might swap it for a Mazda 5 diesel in couple years, otherwise I will keep it for at least 10 years.
#7888 of 8223 Re: Should I buy an MPV?? [gurneyhalleck]
Mar 13, 2006 (7:13 am)
My advice would be to buy an extended warranty so that you are covered in case of serious problems. The Gen 1 MPV's seem to be more rugged than the Gen 2 MPV's, with lower maintenance and repair costs.
#7889 of 8223 Re: Should I buy an MPV?? [gurneyhalleck]
Mar 13, 2006 (7:13 am)
The 3.0ltr duratec engine that is found in the MPV / Escape / Tribute / Ranger / B2000 is a Mazda Built engine. I have an '01 Escape XLT with it and have not had any problems. The '06 MPV is one of a few vehicles my wife and I are looking at as replacements for growing family.
#7890 of 8223 Re: Should I buy an MPV?? [odie6l]
Mar 13, 2006 (9:25 am)
The 3.0ltr duratec engine that is found in the MPV / Escape / Tribute / Ranger / B2000 is a Mazda Built engine.
I beg to differ. The base engine was sent over to Japan from Ford. Mazda did some control work to it. It would be a stretch to call it a Japanese product.
#7891 of 8223 Re: Should I buy an MPV?? [gurneyhalleck]
Mar 13, 2006 (11:47 am)
YES, you should buy a MPV. I did...and don't regret it one bit. About 14,000 miles on our 2004 and has been extremely reliable(knock on wood).
The only reason CR has downgraded the MPV from one of those most reliable, to not recommended, is because of the
programming software issue with the trans. that was easily rectified. CR doesn't differentiate a mild software upgrade for the transmission to one that has the trans. falling out from beneath your vehilce. So, I wouldn't worry about that as it affected 2003 and early 2004 models.
The only Ford part I know about is the Duratec engine...one of their best. MPV is built in Japan...fit and finish, as well as overall quality, is outstanding in my opinion.
Mar 14, 2006 (8:06 am)
I've noticed in a few of your postings, mentioning about the M5 DIESEL?
Where did you get that for US?
Just curious....coming from Diesel Land of Europe.
#7893 of 8223 Re: M5 Diesel? [dan bitman]
Mar 14, 2006 (8:55 am)
you probably saw the Euro article then.
Last update was that it was coming to Canada.
Mazda US surveys are asking about whether people will be interested in it.
It is only my opinion, but the US diesel version seems a logical next step once the fuel gets cleaned up here.
An no, I don't work for Mazda or Ford or any car maker, I am just a normal guy.
#7894 of 8223 Re: M5 Diesel? [once_for_all]
by dan bitman
Mar 14, 2006 (11:12 am)
Unfortunately, there is a huge misconception in the US, about the Diesel engines.
I was recently in Austria and drove a manual 6 spd Diesel M6 wagon....it's a ZOOM-ZOOM come true!!!
Diesel technology ( in Europe) is light years ahead of what Diesel engines represent on some US trucks.
Or it could be ( according to other folks I spoke with)...a political issue of not encouraging Diesel for the US auto-market.
Now grasp that....
Thanks for clarifying, John
#7895 of 8223 Re: M5 Diesel? [dan bitman]
Mar 14, 2006 (11:23 am)
huge misconception in the US, about the Diesel engines.
It is changing though. Even Pres. Bush publicly stated that he wanted the clean diesels coming in.
It just makes sense, from a global perspective, to get the best technology in place. I think the emissions bug-a-boo will eventually get addressed. Then once we get a funtional modern diesel engine car available in all 50 states, the word will spread.
Mercedes (IIRC) is planning on being in all 50 this fall, with their Blu-tec engines and technology.