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#7637 of 8223 Consumer(gag)Reports
Feb 04, 2005 (10:19 am)
C.R came out with their yearly rankings of minivans. Got the March issue today.The Mazda MPV wasn't tested, but it ranked 4th out of 8 listed.
I use to think they knew what they were doing...now I'm not to sure.They have the MPV listed as "poor"reliability in todays issue( in paragraph above rating says MPV reliability has been "subpar")Thats in the same category as the 2004 Nissan Quest.I've read the Quest problems board/recalls/TSB's...there is absolutely no way on Gods green earth that the MPV's reliability/problems are close to those of the Quests. In their 2005 yearly review the MPV's reliablity is rated as average.The ONLY blemish a half red circle instead of a full red circle in the transmission category.Anyhow,the Ody and Sienna could do no wrong according to the reviewers... and the Grand Caravan and Saturn Relay got little respect.
#7638 of 8223 Re: Consumer(gag)Reports [jipster]
Feb 07, 2005 (1:35 pm)
What do you meant that "in their 2005 yearly review, the MPV's reliability is rated as average"? The latest CR review of MPV gives it a "Much worse than average" assessment, and the same poor rating in the latest yearly reviews of both the 04 and 03 models. Only the 02 has an "average" rating, while earlier models are better than average. The downswing is all due to the transmission problem (which is correctable), which we all discussed back on pages 377-378 of this forum. By the way, if you look at the details of the Nissan in their reliability ratings, the Nissan is clearly worse. As I noted earlier, I contacted CR and in their response they basically admitted that they dont even know the details about the problems that determine their reliability ratings.
#7640 of 8223 Re: Consumer(gag)Reports [elie]
Feb 08, 2005 (10:45 am)
elie, in their "reliability records" it had scores that were: 2000 model-2002 MPV were given a check for above average reliability. The latest model tested(the 2003)which is reported in the CR 2005 Buyers Guide Booklet...was given a dash which means average reliablity.BUT,"predicted reliability" was said to be "poor". Which raises the question...how can a vehicle with average reliability rating in their latest survey be given a score of "poor" in predicted reliabiltiy?
#7641 of 8223 Re: Consumer(gag)Reports [jipster]
Feb 09, 2005 (3:05 pm)
jipster, i looked at the online reliability ratings (yes, I have an online subscription!) They gave the '02 an "average" rating, but the '03 and '04 models "worse than average" --thus the predicted "poor" rating. That would make sense if their assessment of the '03 and '04 models make sense, but it doesnt. They ignore every single criteria except the transmission problems, and yet they dont even know what the transmission problem was!! (I've taken their auto poll, by the way, there is no place to describe your problems in any specific detail.) Even the 'average' rating for the '02 model seems irrational--only blemish is an 'average' rating for 'fuel" system problem--so the whole overall reliability rating for the '02 goes down to 'average'?! Now if you ask CR to explain, they will tell you that 'average' can mean 'worse than average' if the average number of problems of all cars manufactured in that year was 'better than average'---in other words, average sometimes means average, sometimes it means worse than average, sometimes it means better than average. Got that?! CR's strategy seems to be to just make the logic of the ratings so indecipherable that if you try and question them, you will give up in confusion before you get very far....!
#7642 of 8223 Re: [jipster]
Feb 14, 2005 (12:34 pm)
My has just hit the 12K mile mark. I took the mpv to the dealer for a 4 wheel alignment service and the replacement of new rear brake pads.
The shuttle they used to take me back and forth was a Mazda6. My instant feeling on the Mazda6 was that it's the smallest among the mid-sizes out there. The interior wasn't as roomy as my long gone 99 Camry, not to mention the new Camry and Accord. I feel that Mazda has not desire to biggie sized the product line, while the big guys make their cars and vans bigger and better. Even the next KIA van is getting bigger for the size and horsepower. Take a look at the stats of upcoming Mazda5, it is going back to the size of the long gone first generation Honda Ody. Are they going to biggie sized the MPV to call it Mazda7 in the near future? I don't believe this company is heading toward the right direction now.
I heard friends complained about the size of Mazda cars that are too small for them to fit in. For instance, the Miata. Does sporty attribute has to mean less space being offered?
What happened to the 929? I think it was the best looking Mazda they've ever built.
Feb 20, 2005 (2:06 pm)
I was able to get one of the local tire places to price match the Tire Rack's price on the Yokahama Avid Touring tire. Their price for a set of 4 tires mounted and balanced is $307 including tax. I didn't think that was too bad of a price for an 80K mile tire (that should be far superior to the crappy OEM Dunnies). He had to order them and they should be in on Tuesday. I'll let you know how they ride after I have them mounted.
Feb 21, 2005 (9:27 am)
Has anyone purchased the seat covers available from Mazda? What is the quality and feel of the fabric? Do they cover the whole seat? and how easy are they to install.
Any responses would be greatly appreciated