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#6752 of 8223 2004 MPV is...
Oct 27, 2003 (9:12 am)
essentially the same as the 2003. Just some exterior and interior design modifications and a few minor mechanical modifications like adding rear-disc brakes.
I doubt any of these changes will be buggy since disc brakes have been out for several years on the Japanese MPV.
Now the dealers may not be dealing quite as well at first, but once consumers figure out that it is really the same-ol small van, they will have to deal in order to sell.
Not to disparage the MPV, I love my 2002. But like most other automotive categories, US consumers still have the "bigger is better" mentality.
I just hope that Mazda doesn't give in, and the next fully redone MPV (2006?) will still be smaller and more manuverable (and more stylish)than the rest. For me, if you take the small size, good handling, and stylish exterior away then there are a lot of competitors out there.
The current MPV has very few competitors. Mazda needs to keep it's eyes off the Odyssey and Sienna sales numbers, and compare the MPV sales to short wheelbase GM vans, or Dodge Caravans. Those are it's true competitors.
I am hoping that I will not be forces into a behemoth mammoth for my next minivan purchase.
#6753 of 8223 RE sulfur smell
Oct 27, 2003 (11:17 am)
I test drove two 2003 MPVs a few months ago, an ES and a LS. I remember one had a real bad sulfur smell. The saleslady said she could not notice it, as her nose was not working that day...yeah right. I liked the van ok, but it was a little small for our needs.
#6754 of 8223 2004 MPV is...
Oct 27, 2003 (1:22 pm)
Mazda can solve our (current MPV owners) problems and theirs (desire to more aptly compete with Odysseys, Siennas, Dodge/Chryco Twins) by simply taking a page from Chrysler/GM and offering current wheelbase and a new extended wheelbase when they redo the MPV for 2006.
#6755 of 8223 2003 MPV
Oct 27, 2003 (1:32 pm)
So, we finally bought a 2003 MPV and drove it home from the dealership on Friday. Saturday morning I went out to the garage and the electrical system was completely dead. As if the car had no battery connected.
I was able to start it by jumping it, but each time I stopped anywhere, it wouldn't start. Saturday afternoon I ended up having to call Mazda Roadside to come jump the car. My chincy jumper cables weren't working too well.
Today I took the car back to the dealer where I purchased it and they ended up giving me a loaner car. They just called and said the alternator is bad and that it will be repaired tomorrow. I'm a patient guy, so I'm not too worried yet. I'm just hoping they really solve the problem.
#6756 of 8223 Definition of "nice ride"
Oct 27, 2003 (1:44 pm)
-bottgers: We've got the H-rated 215/60R16's on our LX as well, and we like them, so no, I won't be downgrading the speed rating when we go to 225's. A 225/60R16 will have a slightly taller sidewall than a 215/60R16 anyway, so the ride may soften a bit, but hopefully not too much. We run our tires slightly overinflated (about 37-38psi instead of 35, which aids sidewall stiffness, of course) to improve handling. So far, the treadwear's been very even.
I wouldn't call our ride "choppy"; it's about right. "Ride" has a lot to do with the predominant road conditions where you drive though - if it's pothole city where you drive, stiffer sidewalls might get annoying.
To each his own - I'm really not a "soft ride" kind of guy. I was all over the old Sienna before I actually drove one - it rode like my grandfather's 1985 Cadillac DeVille or my fil's Roadmaster. Horrible. I hate that "floaty" steering-and-suspension-are-numb feeling. And give me a brake pedal that feels like it's actually connected to something, please, no pillow-pedal for me, thanks.
I haven't driven the new Sienna because it's simply too big for my purposes, not to mention the price. It's a personal preference thing...
#6758 of 8223 Re: 2004 MPV is... (sizes)
Oct 27, 2003 (3:58 pm)
Making the MPV longer is only part of the issue. Most of the other minivans out there are wider as well.
I like the smaller size of our '00 MPV. With one kid, we really don't need a maxi-minivan. But on the (extremely) rare occasion, we need to put people in the back row, and getting back there is difficult with the current width. A little more room between/beside the second row seats would help that out a bunch.
Oct 27, 2003 (6:10 pm)
The smaller size of the MPV is one of its best features I think. I've found the big vans, like the GCS I own now, to be a little too big--hard to fit in the garage, constantly getting dinged up and scratched in parking lots. The MPV and the short wheelbase DC vans are just the right size for me, but the MPV currently has the major advantage of the fold-flat rear seat plus some other advantages like a better reliability record, the sliding middle seats, and the working windows in the rear doors.
Oct 27, 2003 (7:07 pm)
Yeah, that's the problem of buying a leftover "Lot Queen". The dealer knew it had problems but to save money he sells it and fixes it under warranty at no cost to himself.. SOP for the car business. I perfer factory fresh...(factory to me)
The MPV too small: Geezz, anybody says that should get a school bus. It's funny to watch the Odys and Toys "waddle" down the road and try to find parking..
Oct 27, 2003 (7:28 pm)
That is a pretty big claim to make about a dealer if you weren't there. So the alternator is bad, it happens. I doubt the dealer knew about this problem, it doesn't make sense to have a new customer unhappy.
Enjoy your new MPV.