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Mazda MPV, Van
#6609 of 8223 Leslie - real world tow capacity
Oct 07, 2003 (7:09 am)
If you're planning on being within 200# of the MPV's weight limit, you won't have much left for cargo and passengers inside the van. If you run the numbers (check the owner's manual), you'll see that the 3000# limit only leaves about #250 for cargo and passengers before you hit the "gross combined weight" limit. This limit is the maximum weight of the van, trailer and cargo taken together.
So while you can tow a trailer that weighs 3000#, you basically have to do so with an empty van, by yourself. For real-world use, 2000-2500# is a more realistic range.
I can explain how this works in more detail if you like.
FWIW, "inflating" (strong word, maybe, but accurate in my opinion - what good is a tow capacity figure that ignores people and cargo ?) tow capacity numbers is common - almost all the vans I looked into suffered from the same thing, as do at least some SUV's.
One request I have for Mazda is to add at least 500# to the gross weight limit, without changing their tow capacity claim. And then publish 2 numbers, 1) maximum tow capacity as today, and 2) maximum tow capacity under full cargo load.
To be fair, Mazda is actually pretty clear in the owner's manual that the 3000# figure is for the trailer, people and cargo, if you read the text.
Oct 07, 2003 (7:09 am)
The 200 hp engine / 5 speed auto on the 2002 and later models should significantly improve pickup over the 2000 model. Check ou the 2004 pics and specs now appearing on this board & decide if you want the 2003 or wait for the 2004.
#6611 of 8223 Mazda in Long Island
Oct 07, 2003 (7:17 am)
I am looking at a new one. Bought 2000 from Great Neck Mazda (best price) but not exactly delighted with their service, which I needed a few times. Any suggestions? Also, is 2003 inventory really low? Is 2004 going to be very different from '03? I am hoping I have better luck and reliability with the new one. Wife hates engine/pickup on this one, but I tell her it's her.
Oct 07, 2003 (9:45 am)
The word I got, on the low low <w> is that the version on the right is what we'll see, and different sources have alluded to (but not said outright) that all of them have GFX as standard equipment.
#6613 of 8223 new 2004 MPV, must see
Oct 07, 2003 (10:05 am)
You can see a great deal of new pictures from Mazda Japanese website. Even a tv commercial. They do use some English on the site, so you can still get an idea.
#6614 of 8223 2004 MPV - Japan Website
Oct 07, 2003 (1:29 pm)
It looks like in 2004 the Japanese low-end MPV will come with the conversative honey cone grill front whereas the high-end with GFX models will have the aggressive body color bars.
If I extrapolate this to be the case in North America and judging purely on styling while everything else being equal, I'd say:
- If you want the low cost trims, buy a 2003 model before they run out.
- If you want the high end trims, it might be worth to wait for the 2004 model if pricing risk is not a sole stopper.
Oct 07, 2003 (2:06 pm)
Mazda Mania chat starts in ~3 hours. The link is in the left sidebar. You don't have to own a MPV to participate - all are welcome.
#6616 of 8223 Steve-o-reno
Oct 08, 2003 (1:40 pm)
You didn't even tease me that today was 'aren't you glad you're an Alaskan day.'
So, regarding the chat, apparently I'm going to have to ghost into my home machine to bypass the office firewall for next time. They're weekly, no?
Oct 08, 2003 (2:48 pm)
Ok, congrats on the annual oil dividend check you and every other Alaskan gets today. Enjoy the $1,107.56. Maybe it'll go back up next year. On the other hand, it's 81 here and that's almost as high as your humidity today
Yeah, the chat is going to be weekly. I have to turn off Zone Alarm for the java version to work here, so the firewall is probably your problem too.
btw, the missus went to KK this am and promised to save me one....
#6618 of 8223 Mazda mpv 2002 noise when braking
Oct 08, 2003 (3:56 pm)
I can't find out what is causing this clicking sound under car when i first start braking. Does not do it after I have braked a few times.
Any ideas out there?