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#628 of 8223 Talk me into Mazda MPV buy
Dec 13, 2000 (9:15 pm)
I'm looking to buy either a Mazda MPV, Tribute or Ford Excape.
I was leaning towards a MPV however this board has been giving me serious doubts.
1. Gas milage of 15 is'nt making me too happy
2. The leaning towards one direction concerns me.
3. Seems to be a lot of 1997 and 2000 used ones for sale. No 1998-1999's at all.
Are these used ones returns from people that were not happy with it? There are tons of 2000 with like 14k on them for sale. I know the engine is under powered, but can this underpowered problem cause so many resells? The milage thing gets to me a lot, because I've been hearing a lot of talk of 15-20 miles consistantly on the lower end.
Now the good, I love mazda cars, this van is really nice and I think is a poor man's honda oddesey. I will not but a toyota ciana, when Honda is so much better for same price.
The under powered and lots of used ones for sale scare me however, some of the odd problems you guys have been talking about scares me as well. I'm used to acura and toyota quality.
So can anyone shed light on all the used ones for sale 2000 with 14k on them? Or more info on the milage spread that seems to go with this van?
#629 of 8223 Re:Talk me into Mazda MPV buy
Dec 14, 2000 (1:17 am)
We bought our 2000 MPV LX in early August. We test drove GM, Honda, Toyota(3times), Ford, Nissan, and Chrysler before making the decision. We've been very happy with our choice. We get 19 MPG in mixed driving. The MPV is not really underpowered, it just doesn't have the low-end torque many people are used to, and the transmission requires a different touch on the accelerator to prevent rough shifting and hunting. Once you adjust your style, no problem. I've had 800 lbs of people and cargo on a long trip on I95 doing 70-75 MPH with no problem.
As far as problems scaring you, you really need look around on the other boards regarding problems, not just the MPV's. I think if you do, you'll be scared of buying anything BUT the MPV. Find a reputable dealer and take a good LONG test drive. Look for vibration at 65-70 MPH. If its there, it probably can be fixed with a "on the vehicle" tire balance (worked for us). Look for lean- its really just aesthetic, (if you can perceive it) but some MPV's seem to have it to a greater degree than others. Bottom Line- If you are aware of the problems, it is easy to shop for a MPV with none of them since most MPV's don't have them. On the flip side- yes there are some MPV's out there on dealers lots with problems, but thats true of the Honda, Toyotas, GM, DC and Ford offerings as well, probably to a greater degree in both severity and frequency.
As far as not seeing any 99 MPV's, that's because there weren't any. and the the 2000's with 14,000 miles, I don't know- sounds like rental car (e.g. Hertz) dumping.
One final note- with all the money we saved over buying a Honda or Toyota, we opted for the 9 speaker stereo and added an overhead Rear Seat Entertainment System- Yessir, we do love our MPV!
Dec 15, 2000 (4:37 pm)
I wouldn't swear to it on a stack of shop manuals, but the prevailing belief chez Mazda seems to be that any horsepower deficiency is offset by the weight advantage - the MPV weighs less than 3800 lb, which is downright svelte for a minivan.
I own a 626, which tips the scale around 100 to 300 lb less than the competition, and which has a teensy 2.0-liter four-banger. But it will run seemingly forever at 75-80 mph with no complaints. I imagine the MPV will likely do the same.
#631 of 8223 I love my MPV
Dec 15, 2000 (4:56 pm)
I've had my 2000 MPV for 3 weeks now and I am
really enjoying it. I have a bright red ES and I
get lots of compliments on the van. I would
eventually like to add a roof rack. I was happy to
hear it could be added even though I have the moon
roof. The dealership told me it would be about 3-4
hrs labor though so I can't really splurge on that
I haven't calculated the gas mileage yet but I'm
planning to do that.
We originally looked at the Honda but there is a 3
- 5 month wait in this area. I'm happy I ended up
with the MPV because they are much less common.
It's fun to drive something not so ordinary!
Dec 16, 2000 (12:27 pm)
Not to worry...my MPV has the same line on the passenger side dash around the speaker.
#634 of 8223 new incentives...
Dec 17, 2000 (10:18 am)
ad in Sundays NY Times (12/17) offered free Rear Seat Entertainment System (good till 4/2/01 out of dealers stock) or 0.0% 24 month financing (good till 01/02/01 out of dealers stock). Don't know if this means that they expect the MPV's with the bigger engine to be ready by 4/01
#635 of 8223 FYI - mileage
Dec 18, 2000 (11:30 am)
I have about 2K miles on my 2001 MPV. I checked my gas consumption three times and it's steady at 20MPG so far. I'm driving about 70% freeways and remainder around the neighborhood - shuffling kids to soccer, Girl Scouts, track, school, parties...help! ha.
I have no complaints except people stop me all the time wanting to know what I'm driving.
#636 of 8223 gungadin_ Talk me into Mazda MPV buy
Dec 18, 2000 (12:43 pm)
Mazda did not produce an MPV in 1999 which explains why you have not seen any for sale. As for the 2000's, I can confirm that Hertz does use the MPV in their rental fleets and sends them to dealer auctions when they are 4-6 months old with between 14,000-22,000 miles on them. That is definitely why you are seeing a lot of them on dealer lots. I bet, however, you'd have a difficult time finding many loaded ES's. I was disappointed to see that this months 10 best / 10 worst issue of Car and Driver listed the MPV as the worst performing vehicle tested this year (out of more than 60 vehicles) in the 0-60 category with a time of 12.3 seconds. The fact that owners are generally pleased with the acceleration is certainly some comfort, but this is undoubtedly a slow vehicle off the line. It does seem that mid-range acceleration is somewhat better though from what I've seen from owners. At least the steering wheel doesn't fall off while you're driving, nor has the MPV been recalled 5 times in it's first three months on the market (Mazda Tribute / Ford Escape). Good luck in your purchase decision.
#637 of 8223 entertainment system and rental cars
Dec 18, 2000 (3:10 pm)
There is a catch on the free entertainment system offer -- according to a dealer I asked, no-one in this area (Washington DC)HAS in-stock 2001s with entertainment systems.
Another topic - I have seen a lot of MPVs with about 15,000 miles on them. Is buying a former rental necessarily a bad idea?