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#61 of 8192 kady999 by tboner1965 Jun 22, 2000 (9:06 pm)
Get a price on the vehicle from the salesman. Put condition on deal that if engine is from USA Ford the deal is for $1000 less than originally stated. Make sure this is in writing. Then look at things such as the oil filter or even better yet, the dipstick has the Ford logo at the end of it. Look at the content sticker that comes with the MPV van and you will see then engine is from the USA. Buy the van at the $1000 lower price than originally offered by dealer. I am that confident. Cheers, TB
#62 of 8192 I should say by tboner1965 Jun 22, 2000 (9:08 pm)
Negotiate a price you like, then put the condition on the deal since the dealer stated the engine is a Mazda engine. I guess you need to be careful, Ford owns 34% of Mazda, so make sure that you are clear that you are talking about the source of the engine, not who owns it. Cheers, TB
#63 of 8192 MPV ES demo price by billshoe1 Jun 22, 2000 (11:06 pm)
Looking to purchase a 2000 MPV ES that is currently a demo with 2000 miles. Looking for help to price this. In particular, does a holdback still apply here as well as the $1000 dealer incentive I have seen mentioned on this site? I note the Invoice with the options is $26,931. Has the entertainment system and assume the $500 coupon would also factor into the offer.
#64 of 8192 Kady999...MPV engine... by javadoc Jun 22, 2000 (11:20 pm)
Okay, Tboner will concur with me here, as we both have (I don't have the contour anymore tho Tboner) two vehicles with the 2.5l Duratech engine. The engine in the MPV is the exact same piece that you will find in all v6 Contour/Mistique/Cougars, as well as Mazda 626 and Millenia models. It is made by Ford. The only difference between the Ford and Mazda models is the badging. Of course, the SVT engine is slightly transformed, but basically the same. The block is stamped "Ford" and the heads are stamped "Ford." So, when the Mazda guy tells you that the MPV engine is "based on" the Ford Duratech, he is right, sort of. It' 99.9% Ford, just not the emblems,or the intake runners, which say "Mazda," or have the Mazda emblem. Even the Oil filter says "Ford Motorcraft" on it. The 2.5 is a good engine with it's own specific problems, which are few and you shouldn't worry. I don't know for sure, but I'll bet the 3.0 is just a punched out 2.5 with the same block and heads, since this is a Modular engine by Ford. The tranny, I do believe, is a Ford unit (correct me Tboner?). It should be different from the 4 cyl automatic tranny for many reasons, so not prone (hopefully) to the same problems that are seen in the 4cyl 626 models. Maybe this helps? --Cheers!
#65 of 8192 Engine Source/Javadoc by cyclerklm Jun 23, 2000 (12:46 am)
Re: "The engine in the MPV is the exact same piece that you will find in all v6 Contour/Mistique/Cougars, as well as Mazda 626 and Millenia models." The MPV engine IS the same Ford design as the Contour/Mystique/Cougar, but not the same as the 626 and Millenia. Those engines are a pure Mazda engine. There is a photo on the page linked below, and it doesn't look anything like the MPV engine. The reviewer even noted the similarity... "While we'd swear that these were the same powerplant, that isn't the case. Similar as it might seem from the driver's aspect, it's pure Mazda design and build from the engine block to the intake runners. " http://www.edmunds.com/edweb/mead/00.Mazda.626.ES.rt.html
#66 of 8192 javadoc got it mostly right and cyclerklm 100% by tboner1965 Jun 23, 2000 (12:56 am)
While the Duratec 2.5 and 3.0L are probably the same block with a bigger bore, I don't think the heads are the same due to the waterpump differences. Same chamber volume, but I don't think they are the same. I believe the tranny is a mazda unit. I've not been under there, so that could go either way. Mazda does have its own 2.5L V6 that is a pretty nice engine, and is of course, it's own design. javadoc, if you still have your sticker, you will see that the only US made part is the engine. The tranny is from Mazda in Japan. If I recall, the Contour ATX is an American piece and the MTX-75 is from Germany. Cheers, TB
#67 of 8192 skorol by bugaboox Jun 23, 2000 (1:17 am)
I ran across the results of the test as I was walking across the living room while the news was on last night. The anchor actually mentioned the Mazda MPV by name. That will teach me to pay attention to local news!
#68 of 8192 another article by bugaboox Jun 23, 2000 (5:28 am)
Here's another MPV article for your reading delight. http://www.marketwatch.newsalert.com/bin/story?StoryId=Coss8qbWbtefgmdm5&FQ=mpv&Title=Headlines%20for%3A%20mpv%0A
#69 of 8192 Help with 3 in 1 controls by scrapple Jun 23, 2000 (12:05 pm)
We just got our MPV LX - love it of course. We wanted the 3 in 1 audio system and the dealer put it in. However, our van was made in 8/99 and the owner's manual makes no mention of the 3 in 1. We figured out all the controls except one The lower left button reads: RDM/BS. We figured out RDM but not "BS". Of course we know what BS is in normal conversation but not as it pertains to a cassette player. Anybody know? Any ideas on how I could get an updated owner's manual? Many thanks!!! Scrapple
#70 of 8192 Leasing by auerbach Jun 23, 2000 (3:10 pm)
Has anyone leased an MPV? Wondering what might be a good deal, what to expect, etc. Any help is appreciated.

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