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Here is a site that shows you frontal and side impact crash tests on various models. In particular I am impressed with the MPV's side impact protection. The frontal protection is great too. Here's the link: http://www.crashtest.com Click on "Mazda," then scroll down to the "MPV 00-01" cell and click on it. This will send you to the page that shows front and side impact photos, as well as the data extracted from the dummies. The most important thing to note about the photos is that the van still holds its form; the roof is not bent, the door is in place, and the front wheel has not intruded into the driver's area. This means that the structure has protected the occupants. The data extracts show loads recorded. I'd imagine that most minivans perform fairly well in protecting their occupants in a crash, as safety is so important to comsumers. In defense of Mazda though, the rumored bumper recall (my dealer hasn't been informed of it "officially" yet either), the poor low speed impact rating is really not a safety issue, it is a cost issue. The MPV had more damage than was expected in a low speed frontal collision in dollars damage to the hardware, not to the occupants. It's safe to say that the van would be totalled in a 40mph frontal, but it's passengers would be fine, as the crash tests show. Worry not, you'll be safe. |
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I wonder if the 3.0 engine might show up on the MPV along with an AWD version, as they already have happy unions in the Escape and the Tribute. I would be the first in line to order one of those gems (the MPV, not the others)! AWD is a real bonus up here in the Great White North. Hopefully these changes won't lower the resale value of our current 2000 models though. 200hp in a 3600# MPV would give it an almost unfair advantage over the 4300# Oddity (intentional mis-spelling). Happy motoring! |
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Well, we're set to take the plunge this weekend. We're taking delivery on a Silver MPV LX, with 4-seasons and security packages, plus fog lights, roof rack, 3-in-1 radio, and rear a/c. The rear a/c was a toss-up at first, but we test drove two cars last weekend, one with rear a/c and one without, and I could definitely feel the difference (though, maybe after an hour or so with the front a/c on at full blast, the difference might have been slighter). In any event, for price comparisons, we are getting all of this at "dealer cost" of $22,137 (including the $1,000 dealer incentive, with the dealer keeping the "holdback" of $442.50). All in all, an extremely fair deal, except if there are two incentives in place, one a dealer incentive and the other a customer rebate, in which case the deal is not so good. (But from what I can determine there is only one incentive in place, a dealer incentive of $1,000). We are paying an extra $38 for cargo net (from parts) and are also having two child car seat tether anchors installed at $8 a piece, plus labor (undefined at the moment though perhaps as much as $195 which seems awfully steep). Our dealer is Don Rosen Mazda in Bala Cynwyd, for those in the Phila. area who are looking for great service and a great deal. Ask for Adam Glazer in sales. Thanks for all of the advice on this site. Couldn't have done it without it. |
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Great job finding that website. I feel totally safe in the MPV regardless of the bumber. If it got 5 stars without the side airbag option, it must be off the scale with it! Thanks for the reference. |
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| Fantastic deal on your MPV! Regarding the tethor anchors, scroll through the previous posts in this topic or try the Cruiser's Club topic. I've posted the directions for installing them yourself several times. It takes all of 5 minutes each and a metric socket wrench. | |
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Thanks for your response. Sorry to get back so late (you did only post last Friday), but I wanted to let my wife look at your post and put in her $.02 in her own words. If you were still swaying between the MPV and the new DC's, we were going to send you a list of strategies we use to test these cars out, especially in regard to seat position and airbags. However, from your subsequent post, it appears you have made up your mind. Did your wife get comfortable with the MPV despite not quite reaching the floor with her heel? Anyway, if you still want to hear our strategies, post back and I'll send them to you (they may still make her ride more satisfying). Otherwise, enjoy your MPV and let us know how it does when you get it. P.S. You're the first person I can remember on this thread that bought it in our first choice color, the sapphire blue! |
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| todd48 - Thanks for the tip on the tether anchors. I called the dealer and told the salesman that I would pay no more than $20 for installation of two tether anchors. I told him that, if his service people did not want to accept that amount, I would install them myself. After reading your posts elsewhere, a potential charge of $195 for 3 hours labor to install two tether anchors in pre-drilled holes would be highway robbery! Thanks again. | |
| That was a real eye opener! Chilling in fact. Sounds like those in favor of the 3.0 included Mazda engineers and they lost. I emailed the author of the article to asking for insight on the engine for 2001. I 'll post the reply, if any. Ford has really stuck it to Mazda, IMHO. | |
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I appreciate the crash test data you gave me as well as the bumper information. Looks like the car is safe, but I would really like that bumper to get recalled as the results of low speed collision are horrible. I just read the link above and was horrified: the transmission used in MPV is not Mazda, but Ford!!! I've heard quite a few stories in Mazda 626 forum about bad trannies in 4 cyl auto 626s, since 4 cyl auto is the only combination on 626 that uses tranny by Ford. Is MPV using that tranny on its V6 engine? That really sucks. |
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| The tansmission in the MPV is not made in the US as the engine is. It is made in Japan (I have my MPV sticker right in front of me), so that article is probably incorrect in saying that it is a Ford transmission. All of the material I have read indicates that it is a Mazda transmission. If it had a Ford transmission, my wife would never have let me buy it! | |
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