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#31 of 8192 Bugaboox by msgjvh Jun 18, 2000 (5:24 pm)
Ford has a short wheel base van. Its called the Mercury Villager and its made my Nissan under the badge of the Quest. If it wasnt for the poor safety results I would have bought one two years ago. Plus they are are kinda small inside lots smaller than the MPV.
#32 of 8192 mpv price by salsa2 Jun 19, 2000 (12:11 am)
crvela, the invoice price for the lx model is 20,210 and 22,115 msrp. be aware that sometimes is difficult to get an lx model without some kind of package. good luck.
#33 of 8192 oops msgjvh by bugaboox Jun 19, 2000 (12:46 am)
Oops I forgot to mention my premise for writing that (knew I was forgetting something)...Ford has announced plans to cease production of the Quest/Villager minivans after next model year. This is 2 years earlier than scheduled, due to poor sales. Though I think bigger minivans sell better than smaller ones, and they seem intent on phasing out the Mercury make over the next few years, I just wondered out loud if they might consider selling a smaller minivan (MPV) under the Ford label if it was already available through a subsidiary and only needed very minor changes. What's sad is the Quest/Villager is significantly bigger on the outside than the MPV. It's not saying much if you think they're smaller on the inside!
#34 of 8192 Motor Trend MPV article link by cyclerklm Jun 19, 2000 (4:27 am)
Here's a new article by Walter A. Woron, former editor of Motor Trend magazine. http://www.motortrend.com/june00/waltworon/waltworon_f.html
#35 of 8192 looking for info by mls64 Jun 19, 2000 (1:11 pm)
To crvela: We purchased our ES at Town North Mazda in Richardson. They were great! I did my homework here and other sites on the web, came up with invoice prices, went in with what I wanted to pay, and they met the deal. Really a hassle-free transaction. Talk to Tracy - he was very reasonable and we were able to take the van out for a drive without him. Also none of this "let me take this to my manager" negotiating. Mike
#36 of 8192 skorol by skorol Jun 19, 2000 (4:56 pm)
I like all Mazda products, and it looks like new MPV is another good one from Mazda. I have several questions about MPV though. I know that new 2000 MPV did horrible in the low speed collision tests: http://www.highwaysafety.org/vehicle_ratings/low_speed_vans.htm I also know that based on that test Mazda issued a recall on bumpers. My question is: if I were to go to a dealership and get MPV right now, would I get original bumpers or a new ones? Basically, if a company makes a recall, do they fix all the cars on the dealer lots or not? Another question I have is if anyone has a data on 2000 MPV's high speed crash test results. I appreciate your help.
#37 of 8192 sapphire blue mpv coming by marcb Jun 19, 2000 (5:15 pm)
after putting off for so long, i just signed for a sapphire blue dx. had to settle on a dx with convenience package as this one was the only special lease advertised by mazda in our papers (not a local dealer ad). will be swapping my old one for the mpv this wednesday. cyclerklm - thanks for that trip down memory lane. i spent a lot of happy childhood trips with my parents and 3 siblings in one of those volks in the 70's. those experience may be why even in high school i dreamed of vans and multicab pickup trucks instead of sports cars. could be also the same reason this article gives is why i also choose the mpv? todd48 - eowww, im just an inch shorter than you (5'9") and i have a daughter age 4. but for me, i seemed to fit into the mpv well in our test drive to be ok. one thing ive observed from looking at my dad (only an inch taller) who never seem to fit into cars i buy is that height is not the only factor. had always been extra thin (135 lbs today at my heaviest) with a dire shortage in natural body pads specially in the seat area. my dad is twice my thickness all around. those extra diameter on his buttocks and torso pushes his thick knee into the dash of my nissan axxess and bumps his head on the monroof cover. he has to push the seat all the way out, tilt the seat back and the steering up to fit. thickness may explain the different feedback weve been getting from same height persons on the mpv.
#38 of 8192 Got It! by jay_bee Jun 19, 2000 (7:11 pm)
Well, thanks to the info and input on this site we took the plunge. Picked up our Rainforest Green DX with a convienence package and stuff. Only things missing basically from LX is ABS and keyless. Neither matter, don't like ABS, prefer my old school brake pumping and keyless wasn't worth the extra cost. Anyway, pretty much drove off the lot and headed straight to British Columbia and the Rocky Mountains. First note, power problems.....NOT. With two adults, two kids and a bunch of stuff loaded in the back, power was not even a remote issue. Some hills it went into a little bit of gear finding, but it did it SO smoothly, you really had to pay attention to feel it. Total trip was about 700Kms, haven't figured out mileage yet but only ended up costing about 40CDN in gas. No one in town had seen the MPV, I think I went through the "demo" about 15 times, 'cause I'd show one person and they would tell a friend, the friend would come over etc... Everyone loved it, might get a few refferals outta the deal The ride is so comfortable, and with all the big windshield my wife and I felt like we were driving a different road, 'cause the view was so increased from what we were used to. Anyway, so far so very good, couldn't be happier (hopefully it stays that way I'll update more as we go. Happy driving!
#39 of 8192 3.0 liter engine by bugaboox Jun 19, 2000 (8:57 pm)
I called Mazda this morning and asked about the bigger engine for 2001. He said definitely not, and that it might (operative word) come for the following year. This is in contradiction to what they said a couple of months ago! Anybody want to guess as to what Mazda may be thinking?
#40 of 8192 skorol/ bumpers by blondemom1 Jun 20, 2000 (2:55 am)
To try to answer your question, the bumper recall has been announced, but no recall letters have yet been received by present owners. Some owners have asked their dealers about it, and some didn't know about it, and the ones who did said the parts weren't available yet. They also don't do recall work until the recall is officially started. So, with this in mind, if you went to a dealer today, the bumpers would in all certainty not be done yet. Also, from what I understand, the bumpers are not going to be replaced. They are planning on adding a bolstering device inside the bumper, to add strength.

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