After driving pre-owned MPV, Sienna, and Caravan over the weekend we bought a used 2001 MPV LX (Rainforest Green) for $20,500 (sticker $22,995). Had dealer pay for Carfax (after he bad mouthed former rental vehicles) and found out he was trying to sell us a rental also! Has 13K w/ security pkg, rear air, touring pkg.
As this was not a Mazda dealer, they new little/cared little about specifics AFTER the sale. They only gave my wife one key, and knew nothing about the keyless entry. Needless to say I was irate, as I know the keys are expensive and hard to make. Our salesman basically told me "tough luck" regarding above problems. I called the General Manager and he told me he would split the cost of new key ($120.00).
1. I believe I need to bring vehicle/one key to dealer and they will make another. Is this correct?
2. Keyless entry does not work. Obviously the batteries may be dead, but the car is only 6 months old. Does the keyless entry also need to be programmed?
On the verge of purchasing LX. List with options & destination is $25,505; invoice is $23,520. After much negotiation, dealer will sell at $22,387 (which includes $1,000 rebate), which turns out to be $133 under invoice. Should I be able to do better than this at this time of the year? I have found the selection with options I'm interested in to be quite limited.
Also, I'm being offered Mazda's 4.9% financing. Can a better rate be negotiated?
It's certainly not a bad deal, but it's not the best. When I bought my LX in Feb, it had an identical list and invoice price. I got mine for $22046, so there might be some wiggle room for you in the deal. You're getting a better interest rate than I did, though. I'm paying 7.7%, so you're goin to end up ahead of my deal.
I'm not sure that the time of the year is a factor. The new 02's won't even be manufactured until November and won't be available in the U.S. until January or February, so it's not like they have to clear ou the 01's in a hurry to make room for the new ones.
It might be worth your effort to try and gnaw him down another couple hundred, [and you might check to see if the $1500 rebate is still in effect--Edmunds should be able to tell you that],but if you can't, it's still not all that bad of a deal. And even at that price, it's thousands less than a similar Ody or Sienna.
I recently purchased an mpv lx with cargo net, fog lights, and mats as the only options. the sticker was 23,900. there was 1500 cash back. plus, i traded a 98 hyundai elantra with a trade value of only 4400--they gave me 5200. all in all, i financed a grand total (including tax and tags of 750 or so) of about 18,000 for a monthly outlay of 345 for 60 mos. does this sound good, or did somebody do better.
I have found the 2001 Mazda MPV for $5400 under MSRP price and the 2002 Honda LX for $24,000 (660 under MSRP.) Getting a similarly equipped MPV will run about 20,000.
I know the Honda is bigger and has a bigger engine, but I don't think that alone is worth quite $4000. Anyone have any thoughts about whether the Honda is worth the extra $4000? I am especially interested in repair time/cost.
I'm of the opinion that the Honda is not worth the extra $4k, or I would've worked harder to buy one back when I shopped for a van and decided to buy an MPV. In my book, that extra $4k comes out to about another $70/mth (similar to my mocha budget), and that'd make it harder to justify to me than thinking of it as $4000.
Certainly, resale value, and residual will probably be higher on the Ody (it's a Honda afterall), but figure out if that's ultimately most important in your buying decision.
I've noticed that Odys aren't up to the std that you'd think of a Honda. A good friend of mine has one and remarks that it is "less reliable than" his "1995 Windstar was." That's not good to hear after remembering those troubles. The MPV has a few issues, but not to the magnitude that I've read of regarding the Ody. I've read their problem boards and seen troublesome transmissions, sketchy engine performance and mileage, wide-spread problems with automatic doors opening of their own accord (pun not intended), and my friend's has a ton of rattles after 20,000 miles while my 2000 MPV has no rattles (except the stroller in the back) after 20,000 miles and is just now going in for its first "problems," a loose vanity mirror door and squeeking rear brakes. I'm working hard to convince you.