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#2033 of 8223 What am I doing Wrong?
Aug 10, 2001 (9:49 am)
Ive been lurking on this site for most of a year now. Ive even posted a couple questions(I thank everyone who responded).
My problem now is we have decided to try and buy 2001 MPV and save $ over probable increase in 2002 model year. Ive been to two dealerships (Bye the way we live in Jackson Michigan and have to drive 40 miles North or east or west to find dealers)Ive made what I thought was a reasonable offers according to what you folks are posting and Edmunds TMV Calculator.
But on both occasions The Dealerships Laughed at My offer and would not even consider anything close. So Im coming to you folks to see if my offers are really that bad or are Michigan dealers really able to sell for more than other parts of country (any one in Michigan thats got a good deal please let me now I will drive to get van at a good price)
My Last offer was for a SandMica LX With LX touring Pkg + 4-Seasons Pkg + 6CD Changer + Fog Lights + Rear Air + Roof Rack. Edmunds Invoice for this Vehical was 24,833. I offered Invoice + $300.00 for $25,133.00, They Laughed and Said They absolutly couldn,t go any lower than $26,023.00 Final end of descussion.
Am I Misunderstanding Your posts and Edmunds? Or Should I just give Up on Mazda here in Michigan and look for somthing else.
Thanks in advance for any responses jacksonian and flustrated!
Aug 10, 2001 (10:08 am)
I was pondering this LX/ES popularity the other day. Seems to be alot of ES vans being snatched up. IMHO, it's because folks are noticing that the ES is a virtual steal. We got an LX only because Mrs. Javadoc didn't want leather, and I only wanted heated leather (I know, heated leather is debatable). My pal at the dealership said that their sales of LXs have been falling, but ES model sales have been picking up by very well. When you think about it, if you want an LX w/ Touring, 4Seasons, Rear A/C and fogs, you can have an ES for just a few bones more, if you want to have leather.
Our next (yes, NEXT) MPV will be an ES for sure, replete with sunroof. Now if I can only find a way to snatch a grey-market AWD model...
#2035 of 8223 find another dealer
Aug 10, 2001 (10:46 am)
jacksonian: Run from that dealer,they sound like fools to me. Unless MPV's are that popular in Michigan (unlikely),or there are no Toyota/Honda/Chrysler dealers within 50 miles, then that dealer is not being realistic. Hold out for your deal,go to another state,but in todays market for them to ask for $1200 over invoice on an MPV is absurd. Good luck.
#2036 of 8223 Garyjwms.........
Aug 10, 2001 (11:14 am)
like Java's Wife, my Wife also didn't want leather. So we went for a loaded LX...Sec.Pkg, 4 seasons, rear air. 6CD and roof rack. For about $1200 more we could have had an ES. Only extas would have been 16" wheels, leather and some wood-like trim. We are very happy with our LX.
My Dealer told me approx. 60 percent of MPVs sold are LXs and 30ES and 10DX. I believe LXs are more popular, but many MPV buyers are finding out the terrific value of the ES.
#2037 of 8223 Jacksonian.............
Aug 10, 2001 (11:25 am)
do a search on the internet to find your MPV. Also, go on Mazda's web site( www.mazdausa.com )and search for a dealer in Michigan. I live in Ohio and paid $500 below invoice for our LX.You may have to travel to get your MPV, but it will be worth it to save some cash.
#2038 of 8223 Jacksonian...
Aug 10, 2001 (12:57 pm)
Run, run run somewhere else. Today, there is absolutely no reason why you should pay the kind of money these guys are asking for. I would check www.carsdirect.com for their price and if that beats everything else, then get it from them. A lot of people have had good luck with them. I priced one here in CA with the same options as you specified (it actually came up with an invoice of 24773), and their price is 23323 including a 1500 rebate from Mazda. And, they will deliver it to your house at no additional expense. Good luck.
Aug 10, 2001 (1:03 pm)
I'd suggest using an online service/broker for your hunt. I ultimately used a broker, but put orders in with Autobytel and Carpoint and got a ton of responses from dealers in the area I was shopping, and their prices weren't bad at the time. I told them the model/color/options I wanted, and had the phone ringing off the hook in a few hours. I think the local favorite (on the MPV threads) is Edmunds own shopper service, carsdirect I believe. The dealers you wrote about don't sound willing to sell their vehicles to a good (savvy) customer... so walk, my friend. No sense paying more than you feel appropriate.
Hi Julyar! Good to see you're 'bout!
#2040 of 8223 jacksonian, and Javadoc
Aug 10, 2001 (1:08 pm)
I picked a ZIP code at random for Detroit, and the price came up about $400 more than the what I got in CA, but still it is about $500 over invoice - $1500 in incentives for a prices of 23723 for the vehicle with invoice of 24773. Give them a try.
I am always lurking about here, I just don't post very often. I have enjoyed both your humor and the tech notes about how to beef up the MPV 2.5 duratech. Keep up the good work.
Aug 10, 2001 (1:50 pm)
When we went, we had a choice of a base DX or a loaded LX. We didn't shop all over and felt we got a good deal. I wasn't sure about leather and car seats so I didn't care about it. We have every other option except 4 seasons, step plate, and RES. We have, 6 cd changer, touring, gfx, moonroof, roof rack, rear air, does that about cover everything? We paid $22,439, invoice + $100, minus $1,500 rebate. It was a new 2000 but we bought it in Feb. 2001. I love it but the black wasn't one of our top colors. I was just about to order a white Ody before getting the MPV. We were able to get so many more options for less money.
Aug 10, 2001 (3:52 pm)