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#1835 of 8223 How's this deal? Still undecided.?
Jun 30, 2001 (5:50 pm)
I went to my local Mazda dealer today and received the following final firm offer.
2001 MPV LX
Offered at $23140
before rebate and taxes.
On my trade: 1994 Mercury Villager GS: 79,300 miles,original owner,rear air,abs,cruise,7 seating,roof rack,alloy wheels,cassette,privacy glass,pw,pl,pm,pst,decent condition,no major repairs: he offered $4500. I believe this is low,but looking for opinions. They seemed to think once it hit 80,000 miles,it would be more difficult to trade. Any thoughts would be appreciated as this deal is only through Monday.
P.S. I am still considering the Toyota Highlander, 4cyl,2wd,MSRP $25,450. Probably get no more than $1000 off sticker. Payments would be 40-60 more per month depending on financing. I like the price,financing,and most about the MPV,my only concerns are resale value,and the 'small' V6. The Highlander although more,would be better on gas by about 4 miles per gallon,and I believe the engine may be more advanced. But,is it worth $50 more per month???
#1836 of 8223 Rutger3...........
Jul 01, 2001 (5:06 am)
what do you mean before rebate? Who is the $1500.00 rebate going to? If it's going to the dealer, it's a lousy deal, IMHO. If you are applying the $1500 to bring the final price down to $21,640 + tax, it's a AWESOME deal. Best I've ever heard of. I have the same options, plus 4 seasons and paid $22,500 and with only a $500.00 rebate that went to the dealer.
The Invoice of your MPV is right about $23,000. I would offer $23,400 less $1500 incentive( to dealer)= $21,900+ tax. There is $400 dollar profit, plus a 2% holdback to the dealer and the money they will make off your trade. Check the Bluebook wholesale value of your Villager, should be closer to $5,500+. Early models of Villager/Quest haven't held their value well.
I would be very leary of any dealer that says this deal is only good to a certain day. Although, Mazda's incentives change this Monday, July 2.
As far as the Toyota Highlander. IMO, it's a very nice car. I've only seen a few Highlanders and it's a sharp SUV. Comparing it to the MPV is like comparing apples to oranges. If you want to compare the Sienna and MPV it would be alot easier. The Highlander is in the first year of production and has had a few issues, just like the MPV last year. Alot of people have complained that the Highlander has had a TON of road noise. But overall, the quality has been very good, another Japan built product. Our 01 LX has been perfect( 3 months-3500 miles) I've been following this forum and other van forums for over 6 months and without a doubt, the MPV is the most reliable new minivan on the road. Drivetrain is fine for us, other's are waiting for the 3.0.
Rurger3, I'm no expert and my opinion's can be taken with a grain of salt. I love cars and research them to death, especially new models.
I wish you all the best, let us know what you decide.
#1837 of 8223 Drew ,Thank you!
Jul 01, 2001 (6:06 am)
Now I see. Thank you for your suitable and kindly advice.
It was not until you said me in #1772 that I learned the its cause.
#1838 of 8223 pricing on LX in NJ.
Jul 01, 2001 (6:44 am)
pjd58: The $23,140 price is before a $1000 rebate to me bringing the final price to $22,140, plus 4.9% financing for 60 mths. I live in New Jersey.
Do you think Mazda will sweeten their current rebates or financing when this one runs out?
#1839 of 8223 Rutger3........
Jul 01, 2001 (8:41 am)
it's a crap shoot, new incentives should be announced Tue, July 3. I live in the midwest and our incentive is $1500 without Mazda's finance. I believe your deal is pretty good, especially 4.9% financing. I think you should be able to squeeze a little more on your trade. Your Mazda dealer is only going to make money on your trade.
A few other points, Do you like the dealership and trust them? Are you going to bring the MPV back to them for service?
The MPV has side airbags( security pkg) and alloy wheels and lot more features than the 4cy HL and is alot easier on your wallet. No crash data available on the HL, although I suspect the HL will do well. The MPV has 4 front and 5 on the side. Just a notch below the Sienna and Ody.
The Toyota dealerships in my area are kind of sleezy. Not to say, all Toyo dealers are sleezeballs.
Our Mazda dealer is terrific and the service is exceptional. I would have had no problem paying a few more $$s for our van since I trust our dealer and service dept, I also own a Protege.
Btw, my sister lives in Bergen County, she owns a Windstar.....AGGGh!
Any more questions, give me a shout.
#1840 of 8223 Crash tests
Jul 01, 2001 (10:27 am)
The link to the IIHS offset crash test results for the '00-current MPV can be found in the additional resources box on the left hand column of this page, or by clicking here:
Osaka, you're very welcome!
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#1841 of 8223 pjd58. gas savings
Jul 01, 2001 (1:55 pm)
Thanks for your input pjd58.Who knows what Mazda will do with their next program. Think I can get the dealer to share this with me before committing on current deal? I would hate to finish a deal on 7/2/01 at 4.9%, then have the new program on 7/3 come out at 2.9%. That would really tick me off.
I have thought of one more advantage for the Highlander,gas mileage. 23/27 vs. 17/23. This would calculate to about $200 more per year in gas for the MPV, or about $16 per month, or about $1000 savings over 5 years. I do HATE to overpay for gas,plus I am somewhat of an Environmentalist; so although there are many things the MPV has that the HL doesn't, the gas thing would bother me. But then I think about how hard it is to get an HL and how some of the Toyota dealers are,then think otherwise. It is a shame that Mazda/Ford didn't make the engine more efficient,but I realize nothing can be done about it now.
#1842 of 8223 rutger 3 pricing in nj
Jul 01, 2001 (2:03 pm)
hey rutger3 (go scarlet knights !) i am in nj, too, and i was very unhappy with salesmen at mazda dealership in watchung. i think i got a salesperson who was on his first day of work. what dealership did you deal with ? were you comfortable with them ? thanks.
#1843 of 8223 Your insurance...........
Jul 01, 2001 (2:08 pm)
cost will probably be higher with the HL vs. the MPV. Rutger3, I wouldn't worry about a couple of hundred $$$s on operating expenses per year. The car I want would be the deciding factor.
Jul 01, 2001 (4:26 pm)
cas6, I am dealing with Flemington Mazda. They seem to be fairly pleasant. I have not heard anyting negative about them. If you went to Cyrstal auto mall on rte 22,then I am not surprised that you weren't happy,their reputation is not the best. I am having a real hard time deciding between the MPV and the Toyota Highlander. Plus dealing with a trade-in is a real pain. Add this to the fact that buying a new car to me is not a pleasant experience makes for a stressful time. I would almost rather do nothing as I become number obsessed.