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#1248 of 8192 by daddioof4 Mar 27, 2001 (9:43 am)
JSchmiidt at post 1216. I traded my 1996 Plymouth Voyager standard wheelbase in on the MPV 6 months ago. I normally keep a car for ten years, buying new every 5 years. As it was, I should have traded my 1990 Legacy with 160,000 miles. Instead, I kept my Legacy and unloaded my 96 Voyager because it was a piece of #$%^! car. The MPV is longer than the short wheelbase but narrower. With the well in the back it comes up 2cubic ft short of a GC cargo space. So, you will be missing some space. The engine performance is misleading, it sounds like its working hard, but look at the tach, it's only cranking around 2700rpm when it is growling. It will never win a drag race, but on the highway, cruising at 70 mph, it has more guts than any other minivan. The engine is also deceptive, in the cruising department. You will find you are going 70 in those 45 mph zones and not realize it until you start passing cars going the speed limit. As far as the flutter noise, you get that with any vehicle when you are going fast and have the windows open at certain levels. The key here, is that you CAN open the windows in this van. Allowing you to clear the air when necessary and eliminate the hot air when it has been parked. But the BIGGEST thing is reliability. I don't know anyone that had a reliable Chrysler van. I don't know how the Mazda will hold up, but if it does as well as my Honda's and Subaru, (read Japanese here), Then I will be happy. I agree with you in that "I will never buy another Chyrsler product" That's to bad because I have been rooting for them since the Iocoaca days. Now that one of the three stooges (Schemp) is running the Company from the motherland, I am have no interest what so ever about their products.
#1249 of 8192 Not really on topic, but I've gotta know, by javadoc Mar 27, 2001 (10:23 am)
I've been mulling this over for a while now, wondering if I should even open this discussion...which is prolly not the correct forum for this, but what the heck... It seems that a lot of folks have gone from DC (Chrysler) vans over to the MPV, which I love to see. Also, a high percentage of the comments I've seen state the previous DC van as being a piece of... (sorry Drew!).   So, can some prev. owners of DC vans that have switched explain the alure of the Caravan/Voyager, and why people are still buying them when there are so many better built (MPV MPV MPV MPV) vans out there? I applaud all of the new MPV owners who have made the wise choice to purchase an MPV.   So, fire away, heh heh heh...hope I didn't just insert foot...   --javadoc
#1250 of 8192 They don't want the attention... by maltb Mar 27, 2001 (10:47 am)
Case in point: I had to run to Home Depot to pick up 10 bags of compost on Saturday and rather than have the dirty bags stacked in the cargo well, I thought I'd just throw down the rear seat. Well as soon as the older gent in his Villager next to me saw this, he started prodding me about the van and how I liked it. The conversation started with the back seat, moved to engine power, then fuel economy, next interior room. I had to cut it short as this was supposed to be a quick trip. He literally just sat there and gawked as I pulled out of the lot and down the road. I think he was thinking about a car-jack.   So had I owned a Caravan, I would have been home 5 minutes sooner. Darn!
#1251 of 8192 And here I thought it was... by javadoc Mar 27, 2001 (10:53 am)
All in the marketing!!! MPV owners must be extroverts then. I have to agree Maltb, I do enjoy the inquiries when driving our MPV, esp when you take people out to lunch or something, and they say, "This is really nice in here, more room than you'd think."   Here now I'm jealous...you're doing garden/yard work, and I'm chipping ice off of my *&# driveway for two hours last night...still not done (wouldn't care 'cept I'm taking the snow off as soon as my new Yokos arrive from Tirerack). I won't even *think* about putting the snow blower in the shed and taking the mower out for at least another month. Can't wait to head to the 'Depot for edging/soil/fertilizer in the MPV.   --j
#1252 of 8192 Jealousy by maltb Mar 27, 2001 (11:18 am)
Well, I had to do something about that 70lb salmon you posted. Here's a visual for ya from the back yard: I know at that size it won't last long, but I figured the doc would get the point.
#1253 of 8192 RSES Promo by xoomxoomxoom Mar 27, 2001 (11:34 am)
Am seeing ads. for the free RSES system on the LX in NJ. Is this in addition to the rebates or in leiu of ?   Am hoping to get one this week. Most prices on this list are in line with carsdirect.com prices. Should I still go thru the grind with the dealers ? pros / cons ?
#1254 of 8192 I'm green, like my MPV by javadoc Mar 27, 2001 (11:46 am)
Beauty, what kind of flowing plant? I can almost smell it, but I can still smell the fish from when I vacpacked them, lol.
#1255 of 8192 Nectarine tree...just waking up for the year. by maltb Mar 27, 2001 (12:54 pm)
#1256 of 8192 All4sarah - tethers and roofrack by otish Mar 27, 2001 (1:12 pm)
As someone has already stated yes you can have the sunroof as well as the roof rack. We do too and have used a car top carrier on a long trip to the lake.   Your dealer can get the tethers installed for you and most have done it for free although the tether parts will cost you around $8 each. They work with the 2nd row captains chairs and are really nice. They match the interior color of your van (beige or grey) and come with a nice cover that snaps on for when they are not in use. There are also marks on the mat for the bench seat that show the dealer where to cut out so the tethers fit thru nicely. It is a good set up. I personally only need one car seat and chose to put the tether on the driver's side seat so we can still use the the slide feature of the other captain's chair. Hope this helps and enjoy your van - you will love it!
#1257 of 8192 FYI by maltb Mar 27, 2001 (1:16 pm)
It's Mazda's policy to provide those tethers free of charge so don't let the dealer charge a dime for that, they get reimbursed.

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