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Replying to: frankiestyles (May 28, 2009 2:26 pm) How will they take care of you when you have a problem if they're treating you like this when they are trying to convince you to spend money on them? Still, I think that any expectation that a dealer eat the $3-400 in unwanted options is a bit much for the customer to demand. |
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| I was wondering if anyone knew if it was possible to get a Sienna with navigation without dvd? Thanks | |
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I am trying to buy a 2010 XLE with EVP#3 and other options. I am very particular on ext and int colors. I have been in contact with several dealers within 50 miles of my location (philadelphia, pa) none of them seem willing to deal at invoice price. Is there anything I can do to get them to offer me invoice pricing? I started to make my offers at 2% above edmunds invoice pricing and those who claim they can get the vehicle I want still will not budge, they all seem to be in the range of 1500-2500 over invoice. Any advice? I am looking to buy within the month but will wait if it means getting the vehicle w/ options I want at a fair price. Should I start to pursue our second choice (Odyssey)?
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Replying to: robcom (Jun 05, 2009 3:46 pm) |
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Was in the market yesterday for a Sienna limited vs Odyssey touring, same dilemma as many others have faced. Summary of Toyota experience: surprised that here in the Atlanta area practically all the 2009s are gone, and only a few 2010s have arrived. Great deals on 2009s if they have what you are looking for. Some dealers claim the 2010 will not be here til sept, wrong, drove one yesterday and saw 3 others. We started the day thinking the Sienna was a better drive, and my wife preferred its appearance. Everyone told us it would be a little more $, and we were willing to pay a premium if necessary. Well, after reading the blogs here we found out that the nav system does not allow programming for a new destination while the vehicle is moving, bummer. Also, the XMSerius radio requires a $450 upgrade. Neither of these things is true for the Touring. I love my XMSerius so that would add $450 to the deal. Thanks for the heads up from others on this pt, very relevant info that is glossed over by other official reviews and, of course, the salesfolks. Our potential deal on the 2009 Ody Touring: price 34,500 (incl the del fee) "doc fee" 598 6% tax 1956 trade in (2,500) walk away paying 34,554 with a hint from Honda they would shave $200 off if asked Thus we entered the land of Toyota, essentially telling them to give a us a price that would convince us to buy a similarly equiped Sienna. We looked a 2010 FWD limited with EVP #2 (995) plus the electric folding rear seats that they add to every darn limited ($750 to fold my seat twice a year? no thanks). It also had floor mats(249) and was white (exta 220). We woud pay $450 to install the XM if necessary. Did the obligatory drive around in a White Sienna, during which the salesman confirmed our new information that the Nav will not reprogram to a new destination while in motion. N.b., you can select a new destination if it is one you have already entered, e.g. to home. Also discussed the XM upgrade. Then returned to discuss numbers. Toyota's offer: 35,975 (includes the Manf Delv fee) 450 for XM 396 "doc fee" ("the lowest in the state, others charge over a $1,000", whatever) (3000) trade in (500 more than Honda offered)2029 6% sales tax 2029 6% sales tax 35,850 out the door price actually you need to add $22 to each of the above for tag fees. These nos are fairly precise but the tax may be off a little, I was told you reduce the sales price by the trade in price and that is what is taxed, not sure if the doc fee is taxable, probably not. Well, roughly $1,300 apart. So we called Honda and said we would go with the "better driving similarly equiped vehicle" for $1,300 more. He then shaved off the hinted $200 to make it a $1500 difference. Since my wife was really put off by the Nav system lockout, and actually preferred the Honda color (Slate Green) to any of the Toyota colors, we went with the Honda. Upon informing the Toyota folks and giving them the reasons why, they quickly hung up--but then called back in 5mins. Now the offer was "throw in the XM for free, plus 6 months of XM service, AND add $1000 to the trade in," essentially making the deals equal out the door at 34,350. I think he wanted to call it an increased trade in value so that the books would reflect higher price paid for the 2010. In my mind, they were now offering a White 2010 FWD limited with EVP and electric fold down for 34,975 (plus their $400 doc fee). Make of it what you will. I think that shows if you get a motivated seller you can get a good price on even the new 2010s. With regard to the trade in, my research showed that if we detailed the car, worked hard and got lucky, we might have sold it for $3,500-4,000. So what did we do? We told the guy at Honda that now it was a wash pricewise, and we preferred the Toyota. Didn't tell him that Geico was going to charge us about $380 more each year to insure the Sienna. He said, well, I already gave you my best price, why didn't they do that for you at the start? Which is what I was wondering myself. My wife and I rarely agree on anything, we both decided we would rather buy the Honda. The Nav, the XM, and the higher insurance all weighed against the Toyota in the end. And for what its worth, we liked the internet guy at Honda. Hope this price info helps some of you. Really think about the nav, doesn't seem to bother my father in law who has a Lexus. The Honda nav isn't all that great either but at least it doesn't lockout. Ford's Nav is Kick Butt, but really expensive.
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Replying to: robcom (Jun 05, 2009 3:46 pm) I'm sure the dealer will soften up and offer deeper discounts on the 2010s in a month or two. Given the 2010 is a carry-over anyway, just shop an 09 for a bargain. |
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Hi, I bought 2010 sienna xle two days back from 355 Toyota, Rockville, MD. I requested for e-price from their site inventory for a selected vehicle with the below details on it. YR/Model: 2010/5346A DESC: Sienna XLE 7 Passenger Miles: 57 miles Optional Equipment on the vehicle: FE(50 state emission) - 0 AW (17 inch 7 spoke alloy wheels ) - $130 LF (Fog lamp package: Wiper deicer, fog lamps, DRL-Day running lights) - $180 QJ (DVD + heated seats +++, see on Toyota site for QJ) - $4750/- WO (Front intuitive parking) - $500/- WL (Wheel locks) -- $67/- DK (Preferred owners portfolio) - 0 *** Note: No floor mats. I negotiated the price over the email. here is the email trail. ============= Me: e-Price Request: I am planning to buy sienna xle-evp3. Please let me know for how much I can get? ----------------------------- Agent-e-price email: My name is xxx with internet sales at 355 Toyota of Rockville. I would like to thank you for your interest in our dealership . I am here to assist you throughout the entire sales process. I can provide you with all the information, including pricing, that you will need to make the best decision. A 2010 XLE #3 will be $29,700 before tax and tags. This is good for a new Sienna but may not compare to the old Odyssey because of rebates and incentives at the end of their model year. If you want to see our selection of XLE's please let me know. Please be sure to ask for our Internet Manager xxx or myself if you call or stop by. This is to insure that you work with the internet department and receive our pricing that is not available to all customers. Thank you again and I look forward to working with you. --------------------------------- Me: Thanks for your reply. I understand that the deals are on 2009 model. But there is no difference in the model from 2009 to 2010. In this down economy, I am not comfortable spending 1200/- more just because it is 2009 vs 2010 ( I got a quote for 28500/- on Ody as I mentioned in the previous mail) . I know the new Sienna model is coming this fall. By considering all, but still being a Toyota fan, I would like to have a final offer of 29000/- from my side before pulling the trigger on Ody. If you can match this price, let us schedule time today for finalizing the deal. -------------------------------- Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, every Toyota dealer is out of 2009 models and all we have are 2010s. Even if I could convince my manager to do a deal of $1000 below cost at $29,000, that would be before Tax and Tags. I understand where you are coming from and if there was a 2009 we would have a deal. Thanks again and let me know if there is anything else that I can do. ------------------------------- Me: You got my point. I understand that Tax and Tags on me. let me know the outcome from your manger regarding the Price. ------------------------------- Agent: We do not usually go under our E-Price, but we have to be competitive until Honda runs out of 2009s. One of my Sales Managers will go down to $29,200 on a 2010 XLE #3. Thank you and let me know what you decide. ---------------------------- Me: Please hold to the price I will be there around 6:00 PM. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ ============= I walked in around 6:00 PM and asked the person I negotiated that is he going to stick for the price he quoted in the email. he agreed to that. he added $100 processing fee. But I said processing fees was included in his quote. Then he went to talk to his boss. His boss asked to share the processing as 50/50. Not to waste time on 50 bucks, I quickly said OK. During the finance negotiations, I got the quote from Toyota as 6.9 which I declined. Then they tried with bank of America. With 5000/- down, I got for 5.25 APR. Also they suggested Toyota platinum coverage warranty for 6 year 80k for 1500/-. I said I need for 7/100k. They agreed. Then I said the warranty price is too high. I can get it for 1200/- over the net. they immediately reduced it to 1250/-. So I got the 7/100K for 1250/-. here is the total cost breakup: ===================== As on the Sticker: -------------------------------------------- MSRP: 29,725/- Optional Equipment Price: AW (17 inch 7 spoke alloy wheels ) - $130 LF (Fog lamp package: Wiper deicer, fog lamps, DRL-Day running lights) - $180 QJ (DVD + heated seats +++, see on Toyota site for QJ) - $4750/- WO (Front intuitive parking) - $500/- WL (Wheel locks) -- $67/- Delivery and Processing and handling fee: 800/- Sub-total before discount: 36,152/- Extra value package discount: 4,485/- Total: 32, 667/- ------------------------------------ e-price agreed for the above: 29,250/- (email 29,200 + 50 processing fee) 7year/100k Toyota warranty: 1,250/- Md state sales Tax 6% : 1,830/- Tags: : 180/- ---------------------------------------------------- On Road Total: 32,510/- =============================== Out from the dealer around 8:00 PM (2 hours in all). Thanks to the forum participants for helping and sharing their experiences. I Wish all the future Sienna owners a happy buying experience. |
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Hi I'm new to this site. A technical question, can I mass e-mail dealers for a lowest quote or do I have to e-mail them one by one? Just started shopping for a Sienna LE with powered sliding doors Thanks! |
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OK I figured out how to do this on Edmund, but it seems like I can only e-mail to those dealers that offer "free quote". In my area (CA) there were only 3. So I went on to Toyota website (I'm looking for Sienna), and I was able to pull 49 dealers within 50 miles from my zip. Now how do you guys e-mail them? one by one to each dealer? that would take me more than a hour. Is here a way I can contact all of them in one e-mail? Thanks! |
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Replying to: andrew007 (Jun 12, 2009 12:25 am) |
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