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Re: Can't find 2009 XLE AWD, please advise [gmva1] by cracovian
Jun 01, 2009 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: gmva1 (May 29, 2009 7:23 am)

Run flats suck on any vehicle. Just get them replaced with a nice set of Michelins next time around - the current ones will wear out soon enough.
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Sienna XLE by promoks
Jun 01, 2009 (7:48 pm)
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Just purchased a Sienna XLE with Package#3, Fog lamp, 17" alloy, Sonar, XM sat radio, and JBL for 30,200.00 + TTL + 0% financing for 36 months. We purchased it out of state, we will have to do our Tax, Title and License ourselves, in Minnesota. We purchased it from Crown Toyota Lawrence Kansas.
 
At this time Holmes Honda(Des Moines) is offering some good deals on Odyssey EX for around 23,100 and EX-L with RES for 28,400 OTD does not include TTL. They are including mud guard and clear coat paint protection in the price.
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Re: Sienna XLE [promoks] by sk2009
Jun 02, 2009 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: promoks (Jun 01, 2009 7:48 pm)

Is it 2009 or 2010?
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Re: Sienna XLE [sk2009] by promoks
Jun 03, 2009 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: sk2009 (Jun 02, 2009 6:19 pm)

It's a 2009.
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Re: ateiexiera they are still crooks, lol [frankiestyles] by ateixeira
Jun 04, 2009 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: frankiestyles (May 28, 2009 2:26 pm)

No, you should never be spoken down to, and that alone is grounds to walk out on the deal.
 
How will they take care of you when you have a problem if they're treating you like this when they are trying to convince you to spend money on them?
 
Still, I think that any expectation that a dealer eat the $3-400 in unwanted options is a bit much for the customer to demand.
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Sienna question by cimbriano
Jun 05, 2009 (6:08 am)
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I was wondering if anyone knew if it was possible to get a Sienna with navigation without dvd? Thanks
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2010 XLE's by robcom
Jun 05, 2009 (3:46 pm)
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I am trying to buy a 2010 XLE with EVP#3 and other options. I am very particular on ext and int colors. I have been in contact with several dealers within 50 miles of my location (philadelphia, pa) none of them seem willing to deal at invoice price. Is there anything I can do to get them to offer me invoice pricing? I started to make my offers at 2% above edmunds invoice pricing and those who claim they can get the vehicle I want still will not budge, they all seem to be in the range of 1500-2500 over invoice.
 
Any advice?
 
I am looking to buy within the month but will wait if it means getting the vehicle w/ options I want at a fair price. Should I start to pursue our second choice (Odyssey)?
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Re: 2010 XLE's [robcom] by fxguy
Jun 05, 2009 (7:35 pm)
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Replying to: robcom (Jun 05, 2009 3:46 pm)

2010s just hit the floor less than 1 month ago. You will not be getting much of a deal on them until most all the 2009s are cleared out.
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2010 FWD limited with EVP no. 2 by gasser1
Jun 07, 2009 (5:50 am)
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Was in the market yesterday for a Sienna limited vs Odyssey touring, same dilemma as many others have faced. Summary of Toyota experience: surprised that here in the Atlanta area practically all the 2009s are gone, and only a few 2010s have arrived. Great deals on 2009s if they have what you are looking for. Some dealers claim the 2010 will not be here til sept, wrong, drove one yesterday and saw 3 others. We started the day thinking the Sienna was a better drive, and my wife preferred its appearance. Everyone told us it would be a little more $, and we were willing to pay a premium if necessary. Well, after reading the blogs here we found out that the nav system does not allow programming for a new destination while the vehicle is moving, bummer. Also, the XMSerius radio requires a $450 upgrade. Neither of these things is true for the Touring. I love my XMSerius so that would add $450 to the deal. Thanks for the heads up from others on this pt, very relevant info that is glossed over by other official reviews and, of course, the salesfolks.
 
Our potential deal on the 2009 Ody Touring:
price 34,500 (incl the del fee)
"doc fee" 598
6% tax 1956
trade in (2,500)
walk away paying 34,554
with a hint from Honda they would shave $200 off if asked
 
Thus we entered the land of Toyota, essentially telling them to give a us a price that would convince us to buy a similarly equiped Sienna.
 
We looked a 2010 FWD limited with EVP #2 (995) plus the electric folding rear seats that they add to every darn limited ($750 to fold my seat twice a year? no thanks). It also had floor mats(249) and was white (exta 220). We woud pay $450 to install the XM if necessary.
 
Did the obligatory drive around in a White Sienna, during which the salesman confirmed our new information that the Nav will not reprogram to a new destination while in motion. N.b., you can select a new destination if it is one you have already entered, e.g. to home. Also discussed the XM upgrade. Then returned to discuss numbers.
 
Toyota's offer:
35,975 (includes the Manf Delv fee)
450 for XM
396 "doc fee" ("the lowest in the state, others charge over a $1,000", whatever)
(3000) trade in (500 more than Honda offered)2029 6% sales tax
2029 6% sales tax
35,850 out the door price
 
actually you need to add $22 to each of the above for tag fees.
These nos are fairly precise but the tax may be off a little, I was told you reduce the sales price by the trade in price and that is what is taxed, not sure if the doc fee is taxable, probably not.
 
Well, roughly $1,300 apart.
 
So we called Honda and said we would go with the "better driving similarly equiped vehicle" for $1,300 more. He then shaved off the hinted $200 to make it a $1500 difference.
 
Since my wife was really put off by the Nav system lockout, and actually preferred the Honda color (Slate Green) to any of the Toyota colors, we went with the Honda.
Upon informing the Toyota folks and giving them the reasons why, they quickly hung up--but then called back in 5mins.
Now the offer was "throw in the XM for free, plus 6 months of XM service, AND add $1000 to the trade in," essentially making the deals equal out the door at 34,350. I think he wanted to call it an increased trade in value so that the books would reflect higher price paid for the 2010. In my mind, they were now offering a White 2010 FWD limited with EVP and electric fold down for 34,975 (plus their $400 doc fee). Make of it what you will. I think that shows if you get a motivated seller you can get a good price on even the new 2010s.
 
With regard to the trade in, my research showed that if we detailed the car, worked hard and got lucky, we might have sold it for $3,500-4,000.
 
So what did we do? We told the guy at Honda that now it was a wash pricewise, and we preferred the Toyota. Didn't tell him that Geico was going to charge us about $380 more each year to insure the Sienna. He said, well, I already gave you my best price, why didn't they do that for you at the start? Which is what I was wondering myself.
 
My wife and I rarely agree on anything, we both decided we would rather buy the Honda. The Nav, the XM, and the higher insurance all weighed against the Toyota in the end. And for what its worth, we liked the internet guy at Honda.
 
Hope this price info helps some of you. Really think about the nav, doesn't seem to bother my father in law who has a Lexus. The Honda nav isn't all that great either but at least it doesn't lockout. Ford's Nav is Kick Butt, but really expensive.
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Re: 2010 XLE's [robcom] by ateixeira
Jun 08, 2009 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: robcom (Jun 05, 2009 3:46 pm)

Yup, if you want a bargain, pick up a leftover 2009.
 
I'm sure the dealer will soften up and offer deeper discounts on the 2010s in a month or two.
 
Given the 2010 is a carry-over anyway, just shop an 09 for a bargain.

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