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Re: Thoughts on price 2009 XLE Limited AWD $36, (excluding TTL and rebates) by Brewtus
Jan 03, 2009 (10:58 am)
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Replying to: phairphair (Jan 02, 2009 6:37 pm)

Just wanted to make sure I read this correctly because if I did then our latest offer is a bit above that. We're looking at an 2009 XLE Sienna with EVP#4 and options:
AW 17" Aluminum Wheels
LF Fog lamps w/Day Time Running Lights and Windshield Wiper De-icer
CF Floor Mats/Door Sill Protector
TO Tow Prep Package
 
Best offer so far is $31,000 + TTL
 
I guess I felt pretty good about the offer until I reviewed the dealer invoice and noticed all these additional fees. When added up they total just under $2,000. It seems to me that that is an awful big profit. I feel like there should be more give on the dealer's part.
 
Destination Charge $745
Gasoline $16
Dealer Holdback $595
Dealer Advertising $ 345
Financial Reserve $297
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Re: Thoughts on price 2009 XLE Limited AWD $36, (excluding TTL and rebates) [Brewtus] by phairphair
Jan 03, 2009 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: Brewtus (Jan 03, 2009 10:58 am)

Destination charge isn't profit. It's the freight charge from the port to the dealer.
 
The advertising fee apparently is charged by Toyota corporate (during Toyotathons) and not kept by the dealer.
 
I believe their profit margin is represented by the holdback and financial reserve only. Of course, this is gross profit and does not take into account the overhead of operating the dealership and keeping dozens or hundreds of cars in stock.
 
If you can get a quote of a few hundred below invoice, I think you are doing extremely well. Any lower and they wouldn't be making anything.
 
I paid 30,800 for the exact car you're referring to, but w/o the LF package, so it looks like a good deal.
 
I am usually able to get another hundred or two off just by telling the sales manager directly that I will by the car right now for my final price. Their biggest fear is that you'll take their best cost and walk to use it as leverage against another dealer.
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2009 XLE EVP#4 $31,000 by Brewtus
Jan 03, 2009 (12:03 pm)
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Hello Everyone:
 
Struggling with the offers I've been receiving to date. It seems that either I'n getting a fair, not great, deal or I'm getting a very bad one depending on what the actual dealer invoice is for the Sienna I'm looking at. Any input would be very appreciated. This what I'm considering:
 
2009 Toyota Sienna 2WD
Trim XLE
Manufacturer Code 5346
Base Invoice $25,563
Options
AW 17" Aluminum Wheels $104
LF Fog lamps w/Day Time Running Lights and Windshield Wiper De-icer $144
CF Floor Mats/Door Sill Protector $163
TO Tow Prep Package $176

Equipment Packages
QN XLE Extra Value Package #4 $3,312

Total Options and Packages $3,899
Total Invoice Including Options and Packages $29,462
 
Fees:
Destination Charge $745
Gasoline $16
Dealer Holdback $595
Dealer Advertising $345
Financial Reserve $297
Total Fees $1,998

Total Invoice Including Fees $31,460
 
Dealer's Best Offer so far: $31,000 + TTL
 
Depending on what you read all the fees seem to be everything from BS to negotiable to legit. Again, thanks for any insight you could provide.
 
Southern Califorina
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Bought a 09' XLE for 28600 OTD + 995 Maintenance + 885 Mny Back Wrty 5 yrs by jumroo
Jan 04, 2009 (9:43 pm)
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Bought a 09' XLE EVP #1 at fremont,CA on 30th dec. Got All weathers mats., fog lights, carpets
 
I paid in cash and got 1500 cash back
 
Is it worthwhile to keep the 885 Money back warranty?
 
Also, found a deal at frys for 599 + 150 install for a clariion in-dash receiver with navigation gps and hook up for camera (200 with install). Is this something that I
should consider or are there any toyoya warranty issues with this?
 
-jumroo
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Re: 2009 XLE EVP#4 $31,000 [Brewtus] by dckozak1
Jan 05, 2009 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: Brewtus (Jan 03, 2009 12:03 pm)

Seems like you've done your homework, re: costing. Are you working via Internet on several cars or is this from a walk in?? I would suggest emailing as many dealers (as you are willing to drive to to purchase) requesting details of cars meeting your needs. Make sure they give all the details regarding installed options and figure an invoice based on that. For get about the "add on charges", let them figure what is a showstopper regarding thier "best offer", just get the best price you can and if its not enough under retail (based on the wisdom your getting on these boards) pass and keep looking.
   Remember its a buyer market. You got the money, they want the money. Many have the cars!! Keep the pressure on!!!
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Urgent question for buying 09 sienna by ymbupt
Jan 05, 2009 (1:26 pm)
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Hi, Everyone,
 
when you buy 09 Sienna, do you consider the shippind data, which indictes when the dealer received this car from Toyota.
 
there are two options for the exact same car , the first one is: ~ 20 mi mileage, but dealer received it on 07/2008, second is: ~ 90 mi mileage, dealer received on 10/2008.
 
which one should I choose? if the shipping data should not be considered when buying a new car? thanks a lot!
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Re: Got a great deal! XLE 2009 EVP #3 [pickanyone] by novice08
Jan 06, 2009 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: pickanyone (Dec 21, 2008 5:56 am)

Koons Toyota, near Tysons. I'd be happy to give you further advice if you want - just send me a contact email address.
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Re: Thoughts on price 2009 XLE Limited AWD $36, (excluding TTL and rebates) [Brewtus] by roatman
Jan 06, 2009 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: Brewtus (Jan 03, 2009 10:58 am)

I think $31K + TTL OTD is a great deal. Any dealers reading this, i'm interested ... buying in CT/MA/RI area...
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Re: Thoughts on price 2009 XLE Limited AWD $36,383 (0%) [turo0002] by turo0002
Jan 06, 2009 (3:45 pm)
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Replying to: turo0002 (Dec 30, 2008 6:32 pm)

Final negotiated price on 2009 XLE Limited AWD EVP#2 was $36,383. 0% 36-month financing. In addition, I paid an extra 6.5% sales tax and title/license fee (no other dealer fees).
 
I have the option to take additional incentives from Toyota if they become available in January 2009 (without giving up the 0% or $1500 rebate from "Toyotathon").
 
2009 XLE AWD Limited EVP #2
Dynamic Laser Cruise Control
High Intensity Discharge (HID) Headlamps
Daytime Running Lights
Towing Prep Option: 3,500-lb Towing
Carpet Floor Mats/Door Sill Protector
 
I had a lower quote of $36,000 from Wilde Toyota in Wisconsin, which I rejected in favor of working with a local salesperson.
 
In hindsight, I might have focused harder on an XLE AWD EVP#4. . . .
 
Thanks for all your help and posts/feedback. Good luck out there!
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Re: Got a great deal! XLE 2009 EVP #3 [novice08] by pickanyone
Jan 06, 2009 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: novice08 (Jan 06, 2009 9:01 am)

That's weird, I have had a terrible time with that dealership. They had been calling me A LOT so on Dec 31st I made them an offer. Admittedly it was a bit low ($2k below their offer), but it was the end of year and I was prepared to negotiate. I made it clear that i would buy a car that day. They never even called me back, neither the salesman nor the sales manager. I even emailed the sales manager a couple of days later and he didn't have the courtesy to reply. I won't be going back. Am getting much better customer service form fitzmall and a dealership in frederick

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