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I just learned that privacy glass can be mimicked by tinted class, an easy operation costing about $200. That makes Sienna CE an acceptable choice. I do not like power sliding door. I can live without stability control or cruise control. That is just me. Every minivan owner around me craved for all these gizmos and gadgets, and paying $35,000 or more for their Honda Odysseys or Toyota Siennas. A friend with $26,000 Toyota Sienna was considered a penny-pincher. Well, I saw $20,000 for 2007 Sienna CE from Boch Toyota at Norwood, MA. Is this a good deal for CE? Did anybody heard of CE with the option of Vehicle Stability Control and Traction Control?
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I was ready to buy an '07 Sienna XLE Limited (with no extra options)from Pat Lobb Toyota in Frisco Texas. I told the salesman the color I wanted and when he called tonight, he informed me he could only sell me an XLE LTD with option#4, mud flaps, running boards, emergency first aid kit, vehicle shield package, window tinting, glass break sensor, wheel locks and the world famous "Extra Mile Option Package A". I told him all of this was thousands of dollars of stuff I didn't want. He explained I HAD to take these OPTIONS because the people at the port of Houston put them on whether I want them or not. After arguing that the word OPTION does not mean MANDATORY, he said he could probably drop about half of them, still keeping Option #4 (halogen headlamps and dynamic cruise control for $1115.00). Are you kidding me??? I DON'T WANT DCC or special headlights! Can dealers get away with these kind of scams in this day and age? I hear Siennas are good minivans, but so are Honda Odysseys and Hyundai Entourages. I also know dealers try to stick buyers with sealers and rustproofing for a little extra profit, but come on? Is anybody really stupid enough to go for this? Is there really a mafia at the port of Houston that "forces" Toyota buyers to take all of these "mandatory options"? Or is this a dealer who will do anything for a buck? If you don't want extras rammed down your throuat, stay away from Pat Lobb in Frisco!!!
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Replying to: toyotascam (Feb 15, 2007 8:58 pm) I also called another dealer because they had a Pkg 1 and 4 van, and asked about just Pkg 1. He did a search of all Toyota dealers in a 500 mile radius and also found one with just Pkg 1. Bottom line is that they can find what you want. If not, you should be able to special order from Toyota. |
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this package (hid lamps and dynamic laser cc) is not readily available in the NY region but dealers should be able to "locate" in a nearby region such as Pennsylvania. surprised that toyota is not shipping cars with hid to the ny area because this a very worthwhile option. |
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| Any dealer who tells you that his vehicles come equipped with such nonsense as pinstripping, running boards, spoilers, and other add ons is full of it. take your business elsewhere. | |
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Replying to: dongliu (Feb 15, 2007 7:48 pm) Just noticed something, too, that package costs a lot less then the VSC option on an LE model (includes less, of course). Nice thing is that means you can at least get the safety stuff without spending a fortune. Check out prices at fitzmall.com for a reference point. The internet price includes freight. We bought a car there and it was "no surprises". -juice |
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Guys this is the quote I got. 2007 Sienna XLE Limited with the HT package, including rear seat DVD entertainment system, navigation system, and power fold down rear seat, rear spoiler, Laser Cruised control, pearl paint, and floor mats for MSRP $ 42,552 Our Price $ 38,205 + fees, after Rebate We have $500 rebate in socali. I want to do 3.9 % for 36 mo instead of cash back. So I offered $37K + TTL but he replied saying that was his best offer. Is that a good offer ? Thanks in advance. |
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Replying to: dongliu (Feb 15, 2007 7:48 pm) Well, I have to admit that $20K for a CE is still a very attractive price. Just the surprise and the inconsistence with the "ad price" gave me the hesitation to sign the deal right away. Anyone has similar experience? |
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| with 12k miles a year, 500/mo incl gap, 4500 down plus tax and tags, residual is 20600. car has option packages 2 and 4. | |
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A long time ago I started to wonder about why there is so little interest on Sienna CE. Most Sienna owners I know choose much more expensive version like LE with alloy wheels. Just today I read on Boston Sunday Globe about NHTSA's pending regulation on mandatory Electronic Stability Control ( ESC), and Ford and GM's decision to install ESC on all vehicles by 2009 or 2010. That made me feel very bad to choose a CE or LE without VSC. Just like nobody today will select a car without ABS, even though millions of drivers live happily without ABS, I simply do not feel comfortable in leaving out this safety feature claimed to be the most important after safety belt. Study after study indicates the effectiveness of ESC/VSC, and NHTSA estimates the cost of ESC to be $111 on top of ABS. All these information cast a negative image on Toyota, which bundle this crucial and inexpensive technology with other non-safety features, forcing customers to pay two thousands more. CE Package #2 with VSC is reasonable at MSRP $1,345, Invoice $1,077, but has never been available at dealers. LE Package #3 (or above) has VSC, but costs MSRP $2,795, Invoice $2,236. I understand that Sienna is excellent all-around. Even compared to its closest competitor Honda Odyssey, Sienna has an interior much more pleasing and luxurious. It just beyond my understanding that Toyota is willing to play such a low-class marketing tactics to announce a seemingly price-competitive model (CE and LE without VSC), and use such an important safety feature as ESC/VSC to block any intelligent customer from actually buying these models. In my view, that is bait-and-switch on a global scale.
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