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Re: unfriendly Toyota dealers[cccompson] [heywood1] [cccompson] [heywood1] [cccompson] [purin] [coltr] [cccompson] [coltr]
by cccompson
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Feb 23, 2005 (6:23 pm)
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Replying to: coltr (Feb 22, 2005 11:03 am)
Tansky? They're the worst of the bunch around here. A business associate was trying to buy a RAV4 last fall and they wouldn't even try to match Germain's OPENING price .
Germain eventually came down another $500 and she bought it very close to invoice at a time when the'05 supply was just about non-existent.
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- #5445 of 9580
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Re: 2005 Sienna CE [thomcin]
by jennifert
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Feb 23, 2005 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: thomcin (Nov 19, 2004 8:44 am)
What dealer did you get this deal from? I am ready to buy and I am being offered that price before tax, title and license. I live in Raleigh area.
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- #5446 of 9580
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Re: unfriendly Toyota dealers[cccompson] [heywood1] [cccompson] [heywood1] [cccompson] [purin] [coltr] [cccompson] [coltr] [cccompson]
by coltr
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Feb 23, 2005 (7:33 pm)
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Replying to: cccompson (Feb 23, 2005 6:23 pm)
MSRP was 26,711 (LE option #2) they started at 25,500 right off. I counter offered 24,100 which was $100 more than Fitzgerald's on line listed price for the same vehicle. Tansky called back and said their cost is 24,506 for the vehicle (that included TDA) and did not make a counter offer. Darcar, a Fitzgerald competitor in Maryland is well below the dealer invoice cost also. They have a LE option #5 for sale at internet price of 25,343, that is less than Tansky's option #2. I guess Maryland dealers are not paying TDA. I have just started contacting Germain and Byers this evening. I would not pay more than 24,300 for an LE option #2.
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- #5447 of 9580
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Re: Price check on XLE Limited-Advice Please [elvis1]
by siennaman2
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Feb 24, 2005 (4:40 am)
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Replying to: elvis1 (Feb 23, 2005 11:48 am)
I am in Vegas where every dealer charges $399 doc fee. He is actually giving it to me for $36,500 plus the $399 doc fee. There is no way of getting around the $399 doc fee. Every dealer charges it not just Toyota but every dealer. I guess it's a "code" that all dealers abide by, just like how every dealer in Las Vegas is closed on Sunday. Hard to believe isn't it? Las Vegas is open 24/7 except for auto dealers which are all closed on Sunday.
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- #5448 of 9580
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Re: Bad Exp overall [kxsomr]
by hotch41
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Feb 24, 2005 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: kxsomr (Feb 23, 2005 9:57 am)
I feel your pain with Hartford Toyota. The guy (or should I say "kid") who sold me my Sienna Ltd AWD did not call me with a follow-up to see how I was enjoying the van. In addition, after I arrived home from picking it up, there was a six-inch line of ink on the driver's seat (leather I might add). I called the salesman about it and he didn't seemed all that concerned with this ink spot. Why should he since he already made the sale? I really had no intention of buying my van from them since I live an hour away. I just went there for price only and they had the vehicle just sitting on the lot, so there was no wait. I've learned that you're sometimes better off waiting and paying more than to deal with aggravation!
Just make sure you don't give Hartford Toyota any service business....warranty or otherwise. I have no intention on going anywhere near that place!!
I hope you will enjoy your Sienna anyway.
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- #5449 of 9580
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Re: Price check on XLE Limited-Advice Please [cccompson]
by elvis1
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Feb 24, 2005 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: cccompson (Feb 23, 2005 6:20 pm)
Thanks for the reply - The cost of the option didn't both me, as much as the lower gas mileage. Also, I live in a 5 state region that doesn't have a lot of AWD allocated which means they don't negotiate as low as they do on the fwd they have on their lot.
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- #5450 of 9580
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Re: unfriendly Toyota dealers[cccompson] [heywood1] [cccompson] [heywood1] [cccompson] [purin] [coltr] [cccompson] [coltr] [cccompson] [coltr]
by cccompson
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Feb 24, 2005 (2:31 pm)
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Replying to: coltr (Feb 23, 2005 7:33 pm)
Well, TDA does vary by locale so that may explain part of it. Also, competition may simply be fierce in suburban DC.
My guess is that Tansky's stated cost is probably accurate and they have told you the lowest they'll go is about $1000 over.
Hope you can get the deal you want but I would be surprised if any store in Columbus will sell for less than invoice.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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- #5451 of 9580
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Re: unfriendly Toyota dealers[cccompson] [heywood1] [cccompson] [heywood1]
by mtnmomma
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Feb 24, 2005 (10:06 pm)
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Replying to: coltr (Feb 21, 2005 12:11 pm)
I had an outstanding experience with Fitzgerald/Gaithersburg, MD. I live about 7 hrs. away in WV. I paid $59 total to fly one way to Dulles on Sat am, Feb 19. The salesman met me at the airport with my new Sienna LE, pkg. #5. I had been working with him for about a month after lots of research and help from the postings on this board. No one in WV or in the rest of the MD/DC area could come close to Fitzgerald. I got the van for $338 below invoice--an out-the-door price of $25,448. It has two "add-ons" of carpeted floor mats/door sill protector and cargo tote, plus the #5 "safety package" of traction control, side-curtain airbags for all three rows, etc.
The salesman was so nice and answered my many e-mail and phone questions promptly. He faxed me the vehicle inquiry report with everything spelled out (invoice price vs the retail price). These matched up with the Edmunds figures on invoice prices of base models, packages, and add-ons. I didn't have anything more added to the total cost but a $15 sixty day temporary tag fee and a $2 tire recycling fee which is a MD state law for all car sales. Destination charge of $565 was included in the internet quote. Since I am handing the title, tag and tax at my local DMV, I didn't have to pay the $99 documentation fee, although they would have done this for me for that charge. (I figure they are still making around $800 to $1300 due to the TDA, dealer holdback and wholesale financial reserve which is listed on the inquiry report). None of the other dealers' inquiry reports showed these costs.
My total cost (including the temp tag and tire recycling fee) for the Sienna LE with pkg. #5 at Fitzgerald was $25,465, plus $59 (total) to fly one way on Independence Air. There was a $500 fully refundable deposit to hold the vehicle which the salesman took via my credit card over the phone when I made the deal on Jan. 29. I had to fax them my insurance info and driver's license, and had to fill out a very simple online credit application just to allow them to verify my credit (to make sure that my personal check was good), Since I was not financing, I wrote the check for $24,965 the night before I flew to get the car. I was prepared to tear up the check and to get my deposit back if the vehicle was damaged in any way, but everything checked out fine.
The paper work was signed in the car after I checked it out in the airport parking lot--with parking paid for by the dealer. With 35 miles on the odometer (distance from the dealer to the airport) and a full tank of gas, I was on my way with my husband to visit our son and on to my sister's and her family who also live in the area for a few days before driving back home today in a snowstorm.
We love the car! Although the roads were getting a little "dicey" in the mountains of western Maryland, the Sienna handled great with no slipping. It rode smoothly, comfortably and quietly. We had no trouble with location and use of the wipers, temperature and defrost settings, lights, mirror adjustments, etc. This was a pleasant, easy experience and I would recommend Fitzgerald to anyone.
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Re: Pricing in SE PA [nickles]
by tonyk
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Feb 25, 2005 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: nickles (Apr 09, 2004 9:01 pm)
need help... Have TriCounty Toyota in Limerick ready to deal on a 2005 Sienna LE with option8. Will sell for invoice $27840. Money factor .0008 Residual $16,881. No money down. 3/36 lease 12,000 miles a year. They are at $400/month. They will get to $388.month but remove gap insurance. they want to charge $500 for gap ins. and $500 for aguisition fee? Do you feel this is a good deal?
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- #5453 of 9580
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Re: unfriendly Toyota dealers[cccompson] [heywood1] [cccompson] [heywood1] [mtnmomma]
by cccompson
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Feb 25, 2005 (6:01 pm)
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Replying to: mtnmomma (Feb 24, 2005 10:06 pm)
Thanks for sharing - great post and yet another tribute (in a seemingly endless series) to Fitzgerald.
Sure wish we had a Toyota store in Ohio like that!
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