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XLE pricing in the Houston area by malikjb
May 06, 2004 (10:07 am)
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What is the best price anybody has got in the greater Houston (or Dallas)area. looks like the dealers are not willing to negotiate at all. I don't mind travelling to Dallas for a better deal.
J.B
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Re: XLE pricing in the Houston area [malikjb #3995] by maximus
May 06, 2004 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: malikjb (May 06, 2004 10:07 am)

I purchased an XLE FWD with pkg #14 (salsa red pearl) at Champion Gulf Freeway at the end of March. The price was about $2500 off MSRP - not great, but the best we could find at the time. Didn't shop around very many Houston dealers, but this beat anything we could get in Austin.
 
It was ordered from dealer's allocation and were able to delete all the garbage add-ons (Extra Mile Package, Vehicle Shield etc.) that would have been added at port/dealer. We dealt with the internet sales manager and LOVE the van.
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Re: sienna me...Extended Warranty [jie08 #3990] by spongen
May 06, 2004 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: jie08 (May 06, 2004 5:24 am)

From what I have read, most people say to stay away from third party extended warranties. Did you get details on the plan so you can compare the parts covered with the Platinum Toyota Extra Care ? Sounds like the dealer may be trying to make some money to me.
 
Maybe there are others more experienced with third party ext warranties out there that can provide some input on this ??
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Re: Placed an order for a Sienna XLE LTD... [tourist #3994] by racerx1
May 06, 2004 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: tourist (May 06, 2004 9:06 am)

FWIW, I bought my 2000 Odyssey through Carsdirect when it was THE hot minivan. Got it for about $300 over MSRP when the Odyssey was selling for $1000-$1500 over MSRP. The transaction was flawless and they delivered the van by flatbed truck to my house on a Saturday! I might go that route again when I get the Sienna or new Odyssey this fall.
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Picking up XLE LTD saturday!! by momstruck1
May 07, 2004 (3:05 am)
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Can't believe it went to the dealer to do all the paper work and since we are buying this van when we usually lease we went for the window etching and the extended warranty . I don't have the paper work in front of me but I believe it was 6 or 7 years. and with the window etch. they will replace the van if it is stolen in the first 5 years of ownership and to me that is priceless between toyota and the insurance company. all around it worked out well and we were very happy with the dealerships response to all our questions and concerns . i am hopeful that this will be it for us a good reliable toyota since that was the reason to get out of our GM lease we went something that is not in the shop every six months for as much as a week at a time.
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Cigars all around ... by nickles by davenow
May 07, 2004 (8:28 am)
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Happy Day!
 
Have fun , and don't forget to poke your head in here now and again!
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No. Cal LE 8-passenger by jfd713
May 07, 2004 (12:18 pm)
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 Hi all,
 
Close in on getting 8-passenger LE with Option package 7, plus mats/sill protectors, VIP RS3200 security, the cargo net and the tote. Right at $26K. And even in the beloved (by our family) Stratosphere Mica.
 
I'm dealing with Internet sales at Piercey Toyota, in San Jose. They actually respond to email. Customer service seems something of a novel concept at a Toyota dealer, so them actually providing some explains why they will get me business over the other 6 or 7 places I called or contacted.
 
Invoice for this vehicle is a little over $25,800. But, of course, invoice is kind of a fake number, since it includes 'Wholesale Reserve' and 'Dealer Holdback', which are 3% of the vehicle's base price and are nothing more than money delivered back to the dealer. Said differently, if you paid exactly 'invoice', then the dealer would make about a 3% profit (a percentage that is lowered incrementally based on how many options one adds on, which follows from from the fact that the numbers are derived from the base price and not from the fully configured price...) As well, one can only wonder how much, if anything, the region returns to the dealership from the mysterious TDA fee. And then there's the document fee, which would be a cost of doing business just about anywhere else but a car dealer (ok, real estate slimers do it, too).
 
Imagine going to Home Depot and seeing a hammer that is marked at $20. After bargaining with the sales associate and the 'manager', you get the price down to $19 and proceed to checkout. At the register, in addition to sales tax, the checker adds on a regionally-based cost for advertising and a documentation fee just for your privilege of being served at the checkout.
 
Also discovered that CarsDirect is kind of a joke. Originally started looking for LE/8-passenger with the CM package (#11). CarsDirect said the package was 'impossible' to get and that there was only available/coming available in all of California. Calls to a few individual dealers revealed that there were plenty. So much for the volume buying/Internet business model schtick.
 
Anyhow, I digress. Focusing on invoice as a benchmark seems just a tad unhealthy. Consumer Reports seems to have it right to say that negotiating up from the dealer's cost (Invoice minus the giveback stuff) is the way to go. Unfortunately, though, CR does not account for the TDA fee in their Toyota calculations.
 
Should get the vehicle shortly. Will post again as followup.
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Sienna CE 7 passenger by rhopf
May 07, 2004 (1:54 pm)
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I'm in the Seattle area and looking for a sienna. The best price I can come up with is $23,378 for a CE with CE package 2. Thats about $1685 over invoice. Sienna CE are real hard to come by in washington. Has anyone else in washington had this problem? $1685 over invoice seems like alot what does everyone think.
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Re: looking for Seattle Washington area deal [pixelmind #3978] by fast_sk8er
May 07, 2004 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: pixelmind (May 03, 2004 6:57 pm)

You'll probably have a hard time finding a good deal on any Sienna anywhere in Western Washington. I've been looking for over month and finally decided to go out of state. I'm flying to San Francisco tomorrow morning to pick up a Desert Sand Mica AWD XLE Ltd, with HO (nav/DVD) and CF (mats) for $38,084. The lowest I could find around here was MSRP, NO ONE was below, and a quite few even HIGHER ($45,495 at Foothills Toyota in Burlington!!). The dealer in NorCal is Toyota Marin (fmrly RG Toyota) in San Rafael. Ask for the Internet Department and tell them the crazy guy from Washington sent ya.
It's costing me $200 for the plane, another $175 or so for gas, so in the end I'm still nearly $3,500 lower!
 
If NorCal is too far away, you can also get good deals in the Portland area. I remember getting a good quote for the XLE #19 from Broadway Toyota in Portland. Here too, ask for the Internet Department. Very friendly and responsive. He even congratulated me on finding the great deal NorCal.
 
For those faithful readers in Western Washington, I have to relay a very bad experience I had with Michael's Toyota in Bellevue. A month ago I put down $500 for a FWD XLE with #19 (nav/DVD). This was for a car in "A" status. It was supposed to be assembled on 4/12 and on 4/19 I called to see how things were going. At that point I found out that for some reason they had not been able to get the option change in after all and were now waiting on a car to be assembled 5/17! All that without even once calling me! I told them I was very dissatisfied and would look elsewhere and that I wanted my money back. They weren't very apologetic but at least they did not give me a hard time about getting my deposit back. Except that I had to call back every day for a week for them to actually refund the money on my credit card. I actually started a case with the credit card company (who said they could not do a charge back until 30 days later) and the following day I had the money back. Go figure. I don't think I'll ever go back to THAT place!
 
On the other hand, we had a very good experience with Toyota of Kirkland, even though they would not budge on the price. They treated us with respect, allowed us a very long test drive and we'll be going back there for warranty service.
 
I'll post a follow-up after I return home with the car. I gotta go to bed early today, up at 3:45am tomorrow to catch the 6am flight! :-\

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