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#3593 of 8569 great article take a look by nofeer Mar 25, 2004 (7:08 pm)
http://www.smartmoney.com/consumer/index.cfm?story=20030319
#3595 of 8569 What is covered in the Extended Warranty by spongen Mar 25, 2004 (7:24 pm)
Try this link to Toyota's website regarding their warranties.   http://www.toyotafinancial.com/pyv/extended_service_coverage/n_in- dex.html
#3597 of 8569 Toyota XLE with GJ package by buyer123 Mar 26, 2004 (10:30 am)
Hi Everyone, I love this forum and thank everyone for posting such valuable information. I just gave $500 deposit for Sienna XLE with GJ and CF package, Phantom Gray color to a Connecticut dealer. To my surprise, while shopping around, I found that one should also pay attention to the invoice price. I found dealers charging 1000 to 2500 about invoice with the difference of 3000 between the lowest and the highest invoice price. I believe I got a good deal from this dealer. Invoice+dealer's profit is 32,400 plus 250 dealership fees. Is that really a good deal ? I have been given 6-10 weeks wait time as Toyota does not manufacture XLE with GJ package - this will be a special order. Typically how much time does it take in case of such special orders ? Any information will be appreciated. Thanks.
#3598 of 8569 Verifying Vin #'s by kwtrading Mar 26, 2004 (10:35 am)
Is there a way to verify a vin # on a potential new vehicle. Calling around, found a dealer in another state working to find me a vehicle. Says he'll need a deposit as soon as he finds it in order to move the car to him and for me to pick it up. He says he'll give me the vin # but what can I do to verify its the vehicle he says before driving the whole way there?? Can I call Toyota?
#3599 of 8569 Proof that a car has been ordered by mcp23 Mar 26, 2004 (11:54 am)
Just a quick question for anyone out there...is there a way for a dealership to prove that they have ordered the van for you? Long story short, we have been working with a dealer for 4 weeks now trying to get a 8 passenger LE, package #4. First, he was going to try to locate the car but no luck so we were under the impression that he had ordered the van. My husband talked with the salesman a couple of times this week and he keeps giving us different stories. I don't believe he has ordered it and I want to demand our deposit back unless he has ordered it and go elsewhere. Just want to make sure he has really ordered before we continue working with him.   Also, if anyone has any good experiences with dealers in the Northeast Ohio area, please let me know!!!! Thanks!
#3600 of 8569 SILLY1040 by nickles Mar 27, 2004 (12:35 am)
You said - I paid 35,414 out the door. The only other costs are sales tax and license.   This was in the south west and sale was completed at the end of February.   ----------------   I have the exact vehicle sitting in my garage right now. On a 'extended' test drive - must return it tomorrow by noon. your out the door price caught my eye.. I am in Phoenix, and my dealer is in the huge 'autoplex' in a neighboring town. where in the southwest did you buy, and do you love your XLE LTD ?   Also, this dealer said what was on the lot is what you get. he couldn't even order one. This vehicle is the Green Pearl, which I could live with, but I would really 'prefer' the smoke gray. Is this dealer full of it ?   regards, nickles ....... '04 Quest SE defector
#3601 of 8569 LE 8 for below dealer invoice by sienna Mar 27, 2004 (8:45 am)
Hello, here's my deal: Sienna LE 8 passenger Options: FE BW (safety) CF (Floor Mats) GN (Cargo Net) HP (Hood Protector) Edmunds Invoice: $25,095 including freight Dealer Invoice: $25,547 (including profits of $446 TDA, $488 holdback, $244 financial reserve) No haggle price: $25,519 plus state fees (tax/tags/title)   How I did it: Well, I should have listened to my wife and bought at the end of Dec, when the deals were better (like member ‘viche’ did). I didn’t find Edmund’s site until Jan, and was amazed at how much useful information is on it. I should have just dealt with Carmax, as they were the easiest to deal with and had the best price in the end. Instead, at the end of Jan I tried the fax attack method described on Edmunds site, sending 25 faxes to dealers in Maryland and Virginia addressed to the generic sales manager. I received 9 responses (would have done better if I got their names) for $1000 (Alexandria, Jerry, Bayside, Silver Spring, Miller), $1600 (Beltway, 355), and $2400 (Koons) over Edmunds invoice. Nothing to get too excited about.   Since Mar 31 is the end of Toyota’s fiscal year, I tried again this week with the email attack method, sending to the same 25 dealers in MD and VA, using the emails from the dealers web sites. I also went to the Carmax site and used their web form to request a quote. This time I received quotes for $500 (Carmax), $1000 (Motorworld), $1200 (Frederick), $1500 (Silver Spring, Jerrys), $1800 (Bowie), and $4000 (Glen Burnie) over Edmunds invoice. Since Carmax had the color and price I wanted, I jumped on it. Now just have to read all great modifications done by 'kmead' when I pick up the Sienna next week.   If you're planning on buying soon, take a look at your local Carmax's deal that ends Mar 31. Otherwise, you may be better off waiting until the end of June for good deals. Happy motoring!
#3602 of 8569 To mcp23 by toyotabrian Mar 27, 2004 (11:35 am)
About your question on how to verify an order.   First - Toyota dealers don't order vehicles. The vehicles are allocated to them by TMS (Toyota Motor Sales) based on a formula of what they have sold in the previous period among other things. They can preference a Sienna for you by telling Toyota they have one sold before the allocation but that does not guarantee you a van. If only 25 8 passenger Siennas are going to a certain region on an allocation - the Siennas may go to other dealers if they are higher volume or have referenced them on past allocations.   To verify if your dealer has the van or other new Toyota coming in - ask them for a temporary ID number. Toyota assigns one for vehicles that are not built yet but are on a dealer's inbound (allocated) inventory. If they cannot produce a temporary ID than they are still trying to preference one. You will have to wait until the next allocation to find out if they earned one from Toyota. The allocations generally happen in the middle of the month and the end of the month - approximately 15 days apart.   Be aware that if you cancel your order now with your current dealer you will be starting all over at another dealer. The only way this may be beneficial if is the other dealer is larger and earns more vehicles from Toyota. That way your chances of getting one sooner are increased. Also the larger dealer can manipulate the allocation slightly because the allocations are called out to the larger dealers in the region first. If they need an 8 passenger but did not get one they can ask their Toyota rep to pull one that has been slotted for a smaller dealer. Depending on how good of standing the larger dealer is with Toyota the rep will generally do that for them. The smaller dealer has no idea this has happened because they have not gotten their allocation yet.   Good Luck - I hope you get your van. B

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