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XLE AWD pkg #17 by mtnfpdoc
Nov 09, 2003 (8:18 pm)
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I have been researching this minivan purchase for 6 months now and find the Edmunds web site and townhall very helpful. I took the approach that hatcher8 did and emailed 21 dealerships within a 3-4 hour radius (western North Carolina) for a XLE awd with pkg #17. 16 responded, 14 MRSP, 2 below MRSP. Toyota Center (Columbia, SC)was about $2000 below MRSP but had a 16-20 week wait. Dave Edwards (Spartanburg, SC) $1500 below MRSP, but hasn't provided delivery date info. I've decided to go with a local dealer who says he can do $500 off MRSP and deliver in 45-60 days (optimistic on the delivery date?). This is similar to the deal that indyjones shared with us (post #2491). From the posts on this forum, the pricing seems to be dependent on the trim you're interested in, region of the country, how far you're willing to go to get your van, and how soon you want it. Although I'd rather keep more of my hard earned money in my wallet and not give the dealer such a handsome profit, this is a great, safe family vehicle. I anticipate keeping this vehicle for as long as any other car I've owned (7-8+ years). I could try and wait another year to see if prices cool down, but our family is busting at the seams in our current sedan every time we go for more than an hour's drive. Good luck to everyone in this hunt, I hope some of this information is helpful to other shoppers.
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Actual Dealer Invoice details of XLE pkg. 14 , Z1 & h.phns by bobbya2
Nov 10, 2003 (9:33 am)
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I am happy to post the details of XLE pkg.14 etc.in blue color which I got when I was picking up delivery of my van. Sales rep. just handed me instead of writing details on blank paper which I knew someone must be looking for here. In fact,
 "missinginchicago" on this forum bought it which he could not get with Bennett in 4 months.
                     DEALER COST MSRP
 
XLE Base Model $24,303 $28,260
xle pkg. 14 3,914 4,845
Pfd.owners portfolio 6 -
Wless H.phns pair 66 82
Pfd. Accesy Pkg.1 174 274
 
Destination charge 540 {540}
TDA (toy dlrsp adv.) 431
Gasoline 6
Dealer Holdback 565
Whsl. Fin'l Reserve 282
 
TOTAL $ 30,287 $ 34,001
 
Infact, I never paid close attention to so many details. I wish I had it for my Le pkg.7 in 8 pass.
 
The TOTAL of 431(tda)+565 (hldbk)+ 282(wfr)=$1278
 Destination is same for Dealer and Retail.
 
Please note: These are from" EXACT DEALER INVOICE"
 
which also contains many details about vehicle which DO NOT MEAN anything to US.
I am sure many of you were looking for this info.
GOOD LUCK to all sienna shoppers.
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To steve_ Host If you could edit by putting spaces between DLR & MSRP #s by bobbya2
Nov 10, 2003 (9:48 am)
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Hello Mr. Steve
I would appreciate if you could try to edit my message by inserting spaces between Dealer Cost and MSRP numbers to make them meaningful as I tried and re-tried and could not edit.
When I edit, in my version the SPACES are there and numbers are shown in 2 separate columns , but when I re-edit and post , they are still same in the posted message as they are now.
THANKS in advance.
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spaced out by steve_ HOST
Nov 10, 2003 (10:06 am)
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Sorry, Bobbyya2 - that's a feature of our software and spaces like that get collapsed. It's about impossible to put a grid or table in a message. One way to get around it is to use dots....
 
Hosts can't edit posts so your options are to delete and repost or just figure that people will understand what you mean (I did). Apologies,
 
Steve, Host
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POST 2511 Re-Edit Nos. of Actual Dealer Invoice details of XLE pkg. 14 , Z1 by bobbya2
Nov 10, 2003 (10:53 am)
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Thanks Mr. Steve_ Host for suggestions to use dots.
I am just going to post the middle numbers of above post.
..................... DEALER COST ........MSRP
XLE Base Model Price $24,303...........$28,260
xle pkg. 14 ..............3,914.............4,845
Pfd. owners Portfolio.........6
Wless h.phns Pair ...........66 ...............82
Pfd.Aces pkg.1..............174 ..............274
Destination charge .........540 ..............540
TDA ........................431..................
Gasoline ....................6l.................
Dealer Holdback ............565..................
Wholesale fin'l reserve ....282..................
TOTAL DLR COST..........$30,287 TOTAL MSRP$34,001
HOPE this time message is posted clearly with columns and rows in line with numbers spaced out.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL SIENNA SHOPPERS.
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Sienna XLE PKG.#16 by toycar04
Nov 10, 2003 (12:22 pm)
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I bought this vehicle with this package and the following add-ons: CF-floormats, N1-mirror,
RF-spoiler,and the Arctic Frost color which adds to the cost for $32,660.00. The dealer threw in an extra wireless headset because I have three children. According to the KBB site,retail is $36,445.00 and invoice price is $31,667.00. I did all negotiating over the net and when I got to the dealer there were no other surprises or added costs. I checked Edmunds and Nada and they were all within a few dollars of KBB on this van. The dealer is approximately 100 miles from where I reside and was the only one who would sell the van at this price. I talked with numerous dealers in a 5 state area before I bought. The wife and kids love it and the van has performed as the dealer and owner's manual states. As an afterthought I noticed that the local dealer got a shipment of 4 new Siennas on the lot since the weekend. Maybe as they become more plentiful prices will come down a bit.
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Sienna deal in MA by lok888
Nov 10, 2003 (12:40 pm)
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I just got an email from my dealer. My Sienna will be build on 11/17 and the deliver time will be on 12/7. I ordered the van on 10/18. My van is LE-7, FWD, with LE package #7, VIP RS3200 alarm and floor mats & door sills protectors. MSRP = $28138. Price paid = $26300 plus fees and registration.
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its all about supply vs demand by chorton
Nov 10, 2003 (12:47 pm)
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When a dealer doesen't have sienna's that usually means one of two things. 1, they haven't sold enough to earn one unsold. 2, they have just completly sold out. Other than for the sake of having one to show people Sienna's on the lot actually HURT dealers right now. The reason is when you have an unsold unit on the lot you can't earn very many others on allocation to fill orders until that one,or a # of any sitting on the lot, are sold. Thats why we put the first one in our shuttle program, so we'll always have one to show and drive. But we can't sell it, it actually titled to the dealership.
 
toycar04, sounds like you got a great deal!
 
bobbya2, right now worrying about what the invoice price is will probably make more people mad b/c MOST dealers will not negotiate from invoice on a sienna. Like you said kbb and edmunds are usually fairly accurate. (aside from distributers fees & options)
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XLE LTD by jerryc8
Nov 10, 2003 (1:38 pm)
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To Marelenelin:
 
I got my 04 XLE LTD with pkg #6 (NAV and DVD),floor mats, glass breakage sensor, arctic frost pearl (extra $) two weeks ago from Palo Alto Toyota (San Jose California area)for $37178.00. I waited for 8 weeks. I can't mention the sales person who sold me the car on this board. If you are interested, I will be more than happy to e-mail you all the info.
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To:Toycar by mercier1
Nov 10, 2003 (2:15 pm)
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Do the prices you quoted in your message include the following charges: T.D.A. ; M.A.F. ; 2% holdback MSRP ; 1% finance reserve MSRP?
 
I sent e-mail requests to 15 dealerships with an offer to buy at 3% over invoice and received multiple replies. However, the invoices the dealers are quoting from include:
 
T.D.A. ............$275.00
M.A.F. .............389.00
2% Holdback MSRP ...565.00
1% Finance reserve .282.00
 
Total add on of $1511.00
 
I spoke with a neighbor who sells for Acura and he explained that the T.D.A is the Toyota Dealer's Association fee charged to the Sales department by the dealership. It is a cost of business that the sales department is trying to pass on to the consumer. The M.A.F. is the advertising fee that is also an expense to the sales department but not to the dealership. The 2% holdback is paid to the dealership by Toyota when the vehicle is sold and is part of the profit on the vehicle, but the sales department is listing it as an expense to be paid by the consumer and in effect doubling the hold back profit. I did not get a good explaination about the 1% Finance Reserve. I was advised by my neighbor to explain to the Toyota salesperson that these added fees are part of the cost of doing business just like the electricity bill. When I mentioned this to the salespersons I met a brick wall of resistance. Each and every salesperson refused to negoiate these fees. Is the execption or the rule?
Paul

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