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#1482 of 8608 RE #1420 of 1481 Rice Toyota/Greensboro, NC by cincinnatus11 by bruno204 May 28, 2003 (12:51 pm)
How about emailing me the name of the salesman you dealt with at Rice Toyota. The people I talked to denied they sold any 2004 Sienna for $500 over invoice. Thanks.
#1483 of 8608 $1000 over invoice in Houston. by machinemata May 28, 2003 (1:39 pm)
hislander, I emailed 22 dealers total in Houston, Dallas, Waco, Killeen, Temple, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, and the Rio Grande Valley. As you can see, I don't mind traveling for a good deal. The dealer taking orders for $1000 over Dealer Invoice in Houston is Mike Calvert Toyota. Fowler Toyota in Dallas is also taking orders for $1000 over Dealer invoice, but I'm going with Houston thinking they'll get first dibs on vans since they are arriving at the Houston port. If you decide to go with Calvert in Houston, check my profile and mention my name. Maybe if they know they are getting some internet exposure, they won't try any add on tricks when it comes time to pick up the van! Let me know of your experience. About dealer holdback, I thought it was already included in the invoice and gets refunded back to the dealer after 90 days. If that's the case, then the holdback is paid to the dealer by the consumer and manufacturer! kgnw1, what gives? Any idea?
#1484 of 8608 $1000 Over Invoice in Houston by cyeung65 May 28, 2003 (1:39 pm)
Thats the best people have seen in Houston for this month? Who is that dealer?
#1485 of 8608 hislander and machinemata by kgnw1 May 28, 2003 (1:43 pm)
I'll try to answer that in my next post. Have to get some work done first.
#1486 of 8608 Toyota Invoice by kgnw1 May 28, 2003 (3:06 pm)
Toyota itemizes all the charges into their invoice price. Other manufactures just build it into their base invoice price. So Toyota is trying to show you the cost in their invoice.   Here's how my van broke down:   5356 XLE LTD FWD $29,652 HE Pkg #4 $1400 RB Running Boards $399 (Sorry machinemata I gave you the wrong price) CF Carpet Floor Mats $119   TDA $682 (Seattle) Gas $6 Dealer Holdback $689 Wholesale Financial Reserve $344 Destination $510   So my invoice was $33801. My final deal was 2% over $34,477.   Toyota just shows on their invoice that the dealer will get $689 (2.3%) back on my deal. They will also get $344 back for the Whsl. Financial Reserve.   WFR is a charge normally used to floor the vehicle. It includes detailing, pre-delivery service and interest charges for keeping the vehicle on the lot. Most of the time if a vehicle has been sitting on the lot, the dealer doesn't make any money on this.   TDA is more of a mystery. I don't know if a dealer gets any of this money back, but Toyota uses this for the TV commercials, magazine ads, etc.
#1487 of 8608 Response to bobbya2 by suni2 May 28, 2003 (5:15 pm)
Thanks for sharing your experience about Bennett toyota....After reading about all the negative experiences I think I will pass on them. But the search for anything but MSRP continues! Will the prices go down in the fall? Since I am not in a rush should I wait? Or should I expand my search area? Any thoughts?
#1488 of 8608 XLE with package #5 by babsr May 28, 2003 (6:11 pm)
I just ordered an XLE with package #5 (traction control, stability control, side curtain air bags, moon roof but NO leather). Has anyone else ordered one of these and how long did it take you to get delivery?
#1489 of 8608 Re: Extended Warranty - budzy1 by switzma1 May 28, 2003 (6:56 pm)
Thanks Budzy1, I sent an email to Steve and I will see what he come back with. I think his dealership is actually not too far from me. How much did you end up paying?
#1490 of 8608 Experience with Bennett Toyota by vincer2 May 28, 2003 (8:25 pm)
I purchased a Camry from Bennett Toyota a few years back and I'd like to offer one additional word of caution.   When negotiating with them (and any other dealer) tell them you want an "out the door" price. After I agreed to a selling price they tried to add in a Toyota regional advertising fee when I returned a few days later to sign the paperwork. While this charge was most likely legitimate I took offense at the way they attempted to pass it on to me. They told me it was non negotiable. Since they were still holding my deposit check I asked for my check back as I got up to leave. Only then did they agree to eliminate the charge.   If they would have told me about this fee upfront I would not have been opposed to paying it but I would have included it on my comparative price quotes from the different dealers that I was shopping.   Bennett has been in business for many years (25+) and also has Infiniti, Jaguar, and Chevy franchises that I'm aware of.   Vince
#1491 of 8608 Another Bennett Toyota Experience by sr15 May 29, 2003 (9:04 am)
There have been a couple of recent postings about Bennett Toyota. I guess this highlights the point steve made: It mostly depends on the salesperson you deal with.   My experience with Bennett was very satisfactory. The internet manager contacted me about a van he had in stock, in the color I wanted. It had some $350 of options that I didnt want, but I accepted the deal when he offered me the options at invoice. Plus, I was taking delivery of the van next day-not 3 months later.   I talked with the salesperson by phone some 15 minutes-we negotiated the number ($850 over invoice)-I told hime I will not give my credit-card number until he faxed over the "drive-out" numbers, which he did. I went over the numbers-checked them against the invoice listed on Edmunds-saw that there wasnt any extraneous additions on the fax other than the Tax+TTL and a $59 dealer handling fee (a small sum to really bicker about).   I then called him, and made sure that he wasnt going to spring any additional fees when I come in to the dealership, and only then gave my credit-card number. As a matter of principle, I had even steeled myself to walking away from the deal if he had sprung any fees on me. But it never came to that (and I never went through the pain of fighting for the refund). The next day, he was true to his word. Everything was above board-no extra fees and the whole transaction was done without any problem.   Of course, from my calculations-I knew he was holding on to the holdback+Wholesale FInancial Reserve), which came to a handsome profit (See my earlier posting#1412), based on the invoice number implicit in the drive-out price. But, atleast his profit wasnt as insane as the other dealers who were asking MSRP. I've heard dealers almost never deal on the holdback and the Sienna is a hot vehicle right now, so I figured there is no point in even talking about it.   I think one of the main reasons I am happy with my purchasing experience, is that he had the van in stock, and thus a VIN# and a list of options that I could make a decision about, as opposed to booking for a vehicle which has not even been built, dont know what sort of options it has, and the possibility of "change of mind" on both parties (dealer could decide he'd like to make more profit or the customer could decide, he'll get a cheaper price elsewhere) and thus the ensuing heartburns because one of the parties to renege on the deal.   So, all in all, I think I was very happy with Bennett probably because the salesperson was straight-forward with me.   Sorry for the longish post.   -sr15

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