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#12035 of 12250 Has anyone else gotten jammed trying to purchase their lease from SETF?
Sep 16, 2012 (4:54 am)
Our 2008 Sienna had a great buyout price of 11500 and we know it is in good shape because it has been ours.
Oddly it was leased in NY so not with SETF, but rather TFS. TFS told us (at first) to go to any Toyota dealership and they would do the transfer paperwork rather than us just sending in a check through the mail (as is customary) to buyout the lease. I didn't think too much of it since there was a brand new dealership in BRadenton that I wanted to see anyway. We go in and the dealership is new and shiny, they bring out the paperwork and it is 14300 not itemized. I ask them how they got to that figure, I mean expect to pay tax/reg etc but this was much. They try to stick us for 900$ dealer fee to fill out 30minutes of paperwork, plus another 800$ that couldn't be accounted for they said it was inspection fee.
I stormed out called toyota and after a bunch of calls someone pointed us to a lexus dealer in the area that did the paperwork for us for about 100$ very fair they are I guess a TFS company.
The Toyota dealerships are absolutely terrible in our area (Sarasota/Manatee counties) and this is about the 3rd really bad experience in one down here that has sworn me off of individual dealerships. I wonder is it just SETF arrogance becuase the stock answer from Toyota each time I have called to complain is "Sorry each dealership is independently owned we cant do anyhting"?
I wish I had known this in advance because it was stressful,
#12036 of 12250 Need opinion on Sienna LE quote
Sep 19, 2012 (8:44 pm)
This is a wonderful forum and I thank you all in advance for sharing your wisdom.
We have a 2nd baby coming and with family visiting often need to get a minivan.
Since 2013 models have come into market I was looking for a 2012 new car to get some price leverage and finally have a quote that seems to be OK but need your feedback -
Its for a Sienna LE Dealer Demo Model (2012/5338A) with 6K miles, includes LE Convenience Package + LE Preferred Package + Towing Prep Package for 26,500. My guess is I would need to pay separate sales tax that is not factored in the dealer's final price. Does this look like a decent deal for a 2012 LE with 6K miles ? The MSRP on the sticker was 29,700 + 220 (anti theft) + 220 (Towing prep) + 325 (Carpet foor Mats/Door Still Protector) + 810 (Delivery Processing and Handling Fee) = 31,275.
LE Convenience Package –
includes fixed center console and roof rails.
LE Preferred Package -
Dual power-sliding doors and power rear door, an eight-way power driver seat with power lumbar support, electrochromatic rearview mirror with Homelink, multi-information display with backup camera, rear window sunshades, AM/FM/MP3 CD audio with integrated SiriusXM satellite radio capability with 90 day trial subscription, auxiliary audio jack, USB port with iPod connectivity, and hands-free phone capability and music streaming via Bluetooth connectivity, and steering wheel audio controls
Towing Prep Package -
includes 3500-lb. towing capacity, engine oil cooler, heavy-duty radiator and fan. Anti-theft system with alarm and engine immobilizer.
#12037 of 12250 Re: Need opinion on Sienna LE quote [ywallet]
Sep 20, 2012 (11:48 am)
From the mention of LE Preferred Package I guess it is a 4-cyl LE and the 26,500 for a 6k demo is on the VERY high-end of price scale (even after all the packages and accessories).
If you review some of the posts here you can see that New 2012 LE V6 8-pass FWD were purchased (with all those options plus more) for less than 26,500. I myself purchased one in Aug for 26,401 + ttl. In Sep Toyota has more incentives (750 vs 1000) so I think the best price to target on V6 LE 8-pass FWD is around 26,250 when 1000 cash incentive is used (including destination & dealer fees, mats, tow prep and roof rail cross bars), depending on the local market couple of hundreds more.
I would stay away from that LE 4-cyl deal, moreover V6 would be a better choice in my opinion (the 4-cyl only has miniscule mileage advantage and at times is underpowered for a van of such space & versatility). This may be the reason Toyota dropped 4-cyl all together for 2013.
#12038 of 12250 Re: Need opinion on Sienna LE quote [isodyok]
Sep 20, 2012 (1:02 pm)
Based on the MSRP and two-prep you noted, I see it is an LE V6 FWD that you are dealing with (separate mention of Preferred Package made me think it is LE 4-cyl). Even then 26,500 for a 6k used LE V6 is high. The guideline I noted earlier is a good gauge of new 2012 LE V6 FWD prices.
#12039 of 12250 Re: Need opinion on Sienna LE quote [isodyok]
Sep 20, 2012 (1:08 pm)
Thanks for your reply and valuable advise isodyok - it indeed is a V6 LE FWD but with the 6K miles I had a feeling this wasn't a good offer. I am in Chicago NW suburbs and unfortunately I haven't seen anybody post a purchase price from here since 2011 so am unable to make a fair comparison. We have a carmax that is selling the new 2013 LE at a price of 29,458 so my comparison was to see how much I can save my going with the older 2012 model that also has these additional 6K miles on it .. I will keep looking for more feedback and will continue to research further, will post the details here if I find something better.
#12040 of 12250 Re: Need opinion on Sienna LE quote [ywallet]
Sep 21, 2012 (12:02 pm)
Glad to be of help, this forum helped be immensely.
There was a post here recently that 2013 LE V6 8-pass FWD with tow-prep, mats and roof crossbars offered for 26,700 cash at the same Boston dealer where I purchased my 2012. Add about 400 dealer fee to that for final price of 27,100 excluding sales tax, title and license. Approx. 500 premium compared to the price offered on a 2012 with comparable accessories. These are the best prices on 2012 & 2013 V6 LEs I have seen in the posts here and elsewhere. I do not see how they can be any more expensive in Chicago, provided you find a volume/value dealership. A few hundred dollars more on what I noted may still be reasonable. This should given you an idea. Good luck with your search.
#12041 of 12250 Re: Need opinion on Sienna LE quote [isodyok]
Sep 21, 2012 (12:36 pm)
I am not sure why, but I interacted with all the dealers in a 100 mile radius and the best offer I got was still the 26,683 for the Demo with 6K miles, next best was 27K for a new one - difference being it was missing the tow-prep package and the anti-theft package.
All said and done I ended up buying the demo yesterday, I chose to do the 0% APR instead of the cash offer as it would help me span out the payments without any finance charge for 5 years.
Any ideas on the extended warranties on these - I have read some stories about issues with power sliding doors on the Sienna and was wondering if it was worth buying the warranty - my dealer gave me a best quote of 1540 for a 8 year/100 K warranty - I would appreciate if people can share their thoughts on both the price and value of an extended warranty on the Sienna.
#12042 of 12250 Re: Need opinion on Sienna LE quote [ywallet]
Sep 23, 2012 (7:07 pm)
Congratulations. One can only do what the local market and time affords. I traveled 170 miles for my purchase. Enjoy the new van.
In my opinion the extended warranty (called VSA - Vehicle Service Agreement by Toyota) is a good investment if you plan to keep the car well beyond the 3yr basic warranty. Given the complex systems in today's cars a single repair can be as costly as the price of protection plan. The non-powertrain related items (power doors etc) may not be as reliable as powertrain in the long-term.
If you decide to purchase, try toyotaofdanville, IL or Midwest Toyota, KS (midwestsuperstore.com) -- more details at siennachat. The same plan offered by the dealer can be purchased for about 1040 (the platinum plan, highest coverage with zero deductible) plus you may save on sales tax. All dealerships sell the same plans backed by Toyota and can be purchased before the basic warranty expires. While there are other coverage lengths I think 8yr/100k is the right period/mileage.
#12043 of 12250 Re: Need opinion on Sienna LE quote [isodyok]
Sep 24, 2012 (6:27 am)
Thanks isodyok for being supportive and providing your valuable suggestions on every aspect, truly appreciate it.
Yes, I was torn between the demo with 6K miles and a new 1 that was only $317 more but when I factored in dealer proximity and fact that the demo has engine immobalizer and tow prep package I thought that might be a better value down the road, we don't expect to put a whole lot of miles on the car.
Yes, sienna chat is a excellent forum - I did get the 1040 quote from Midwest and am now waiting on Doug's quote - the finance guy at my dealership said he can match any quote so I would just hopefully trim the warranty I bought at 1540 down to atleast 1040 hopefully !
Thanks again and I hope I will contribute more to the forum.
I have 2 more questions about the Sienna -
1. Are there different floor matts for the Sienna / Minivan's or the regular ones would work ? I got some from Sams Club and they seem to fit if I trim them a bit but was wondering about this.
2. Since I have LE not XLE with fabric seats that are light grey color and will be driving with 2 kids are there any good seat covers I can buy to protect them from spills/accidents etc ?
#12044 of 12250 Re: Need opinion on Sienna LE quote [ywallet]
Sep 24, 2012 (7:58 am)
Welcome. Given your deal is with 0% APR I think it is reasonable. The two-prep is a factory-only option and is good to have when needed.
(1) Only mats that are custom-fit for the model would fit neatly. I am looking to replace my carpet OEM mats with all-season ones before the winter. I heard good reviews about hexomats that cover all of 2nd & 3rd row space just exposing the tracks for sliding the 2nd row seats. People at siennachat like these compared to OEM all-season mats.
(2) I have the same "easy-clean" fabric-trimmed seats and two small kids to test them. Had not looked into covers yet, so please post if you come across something that are custom-fit.