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#11572 of 12159 Driver in a wheelchair
Oct 30, 2011 (2:45 pm)
We plan to purchase a new 2011 Sienna, adapted for disabled driver. It needs 3 factory modifications: a dropped floor; a side-entry power-driven ramp; removable Captains' chair and front passenger chair. All these are Toyota-factory-modifications; then, sent to Convert-A-Van type of dealers. We would love to know the price-to-the-dealer, so we can estimate how much profit margin he has. Otherwise, very difficult to negotiate with him.
The prices that 3 dealers have quoted, are all approx. $ 55,000. The new
2011 off-the-shelf Sienna is $ 23,000 - $ 24,000.
#11573 of 12159 Re: 2012 XLE TX [jmass3]
Oct 31, 2011 (1:52 pm)
Pat Lobb Toyota of McKinney
#11574 of 12159 Re: TX: Reasonable Price for 2011-2012 Sienna LE V6 ? [mejazz]
Oct 31, 2011 (5:32 pm)
I talked to several dealers. The second dealer was in Bryan, Texas. They had a few 2011 and 12's to chose from. Best deal on a 2011 LE was $27,800 this one had the extras except for the alarm system.
I talked to another dealer between Spring, and Huntsiville. Best deal on a 2012 LE with Several extras was $29,000 +TTL
The dealers have the options marked up several times. They claim they don't, but how do they suddenly start marking down a vehicle when you lose interest.
The hold back of $810.00 can usually be negotiated away. That money is used for advertisement from the manufacturer. The first thing to do is ask the salesman or look at the sticker to see when they got the car. If they just got it, holdback is pure profit. I rarely see the same vehicles in the paper as the ones on the lot.
SECOND: Options are on there to make money, not lose it. There is always negotiation in options since they are marked up several times. I take the total amount of options and divide by four. Now I know the number to offer them for options. Don't pay etching fees, usually dealers can do this for $50.00 and charge several times more.
There is usually profit built into the base price as well. Do you really think they show you the real invoice price when they flip the screen around to show you invoice? Why do you think they get up and go see there manager. They don't really sell the vehicle under invoice unless they have taken you on your trade. It's just a shell game, learn it, then win it.
#11575 of 12159 Thailand flooding
Oct 31, 2011 (8:10 pm)
Will there be any impacts to Sienna inventory like how Honda is being impacted?
#11576 of 12159 Gap between front fender panel and A-pillar
Nov 03, 2011 (7:25 am)
Purchased a xle with nav, cross bar and other stuffs for 32000 +ttl with 36mo at 0% and dealer matched the trade in offer with carmax for our old car. Compare with our 99 sienna xle, I agreed with those complains others that Toyota is making new xle’s interior looks so cheap, plus many useful options are dropped from xle line from where it used to have, however, the longer I own it, the better I feel that we are making the good purchase decision (as opposed to the odyssey).
One thing that I do notice and did not see anyone mention here is that Toyota is really, really making this van cheap. If you open the front door all the way, then stands behind the door looking toward to the front, and looking at the front bender panel via the gap between front door and the A-pillar (around two door hinges), you will find the metal front bender panel stops short of covering the whole area and something looks like insulation material (black form of some sort) extend out of metal bender panel. The metal front bender panel is “screwed in” to the body instead of “soldering” (or whatever you call it) to the body frame like the way I understood what it should have been done. While I question the integrity and strength of such design (cost to fix the fender bender), I don’t know if this short fall will cause any problem in the long run. I suspect at minimum it will trap some dirt as the time goes by and eventually disintegrate the insulation form, eventually causes more problems in the future.
I know all 2011 are designed this way, but I am wondering if it changed for 2012? I would appreciate anyone been driving sienna and park outside for 6mo+ please provide your observation if you see any problem.
#11577 of 12159 traded 2004 LE for 2011 XLE
Nov 03, 2011 (7:32 am)
Oct 28th, we purchased a 2011 XLE with NAV, DVD, and 8 passenger seating for $36,000 and took the $1,000 cash from Toyota to bring price down to $35,000 (the Sticker was $39,500ish) . We added the 100K extended warranty for $1200. The warranty was through Toyota and has no deductable. With today’s complex cars that have tons of electronics the warranty seemed like a good idea.
We traded in our current Sienna, 2004 LE with 159,000 miles and had some problems. The Driver door had the popping sound, VSC/Trac-off/engine lights were on, the Driver Sliding Door power lock was broken, the Pass Sliding Door wouldn’t open because the power door cable broke, also it was flagged for frame damage from a previous repair after a deer ran into the back corner. They gave us $6,000 for it, which was the same as Carmax offered. The Dealer said that Siennas hold their value better than most cars and that it is best to trade with just under 100K miles so that you get the most use out of it and the most value for your trade in. They said that ours was hurt by the previous repair and the high mileage.
We knew that it was time to replace the van and shopped many sedans, SUVs, and vans and even with all the door related problems on the prior van we ended up with another Sienna. The new van doesn’t have the Safety Connect, a power passenger seat, or auto head lights. I believe that the 2012 would have had these but would cost more.
#11578 of 12159 Re: Sienna 2012 XLE AWD [minivan3363]
Nov 03, 2011 (7:20 pm)
My quote was 2012 xle AWD standard $35,500 plus TTL plus cost to get car because it was out of state. Did you ever hear back if other poster's quote of $36,500 include entertainment package was out the door price?
#11579 of 12159 Re: 2012 XLE 7 pass AWD with entertainment pkg [3boys1dog2]
Nov 03, 2011 (7:27 pm)
Was your $36,500 otd price? I'm looking for 2011/2012 AWD XLE standard and quote I received was $35,500 plus TTL plus cost to get car bc none in state for both. Odd that the price was the same for both years.
#11580 of 12159 2011 Sienna LE AWD Quote
Nov 04, 2011 (8:18 pm)
I received a out of door quote for a 2011 Sienna LE V6 AWD in the NY/NJ area at approximately 32,300 without any additional options. This so far is the best quote I've gotten in the area among dealers who still have this model.
Do you think I'll be able to negotiate the price down a little more? It was priced about $1600 below invoice and what are realistic car options I can get thrown in if the price remains as is. Thank you.
#11581 of 12159 Re: 2011 Sienna LE AWD Quote [awd2011]
Nov 05, 2011 (8:46 am)
I got an out the door quote for 31300 for the same vehicle at toyota of henderson in NC. It was from Sean- internet sales manager I believe. You probably don't want to travel all the way here, but if they ave you a quote in writing, you might be able to use it as leverage to get your price lowered.