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#11454 of 12158 Re: 2011 Sienna discounts [dogsambam]
by lxowner2
Aug 24, 2011 (7:34 am)
Dogsambam, I am going through the same experience! The lowest quote I have received on the 2011 Sienna Limited (approx $46,000 msrp) is about $42,500 minus the $1000 rebate. That's $41,500 for a minivan, albeit a loaded vehicle. I do not think people are paying these prices for a minivan. I want to be more in the $40,000 range, and it seems like people on this Board have paid that number earlier in the year. Most minivan purchasers buy the LE for the practicality but good price point. I think there are many Limiteds on lots, despite the name.
As for the 2012, I am hearing first issue is the release date. Some dealers are saying they will arrive in September, and others are saying with the issues in Japan, parts will be delayed, so the vehicles will not arrive until November or December. Now if that is the case, there will certainly be a spike in demand and prices will not be too discounted, unless you have a pre-arranged deal via Costco or some other buying program (ie, $500 over invoice). We know the 2012 prices on the Siennas are pretty much the same (per the Toyota release) but for the SE model which now has the RES. The Toyota release also said that there are no significant changes for the 2012 model year, but I am not sure if dealers truly don't know or are just playing coy on what they know.
You are right, the 2011 has already been out for 18 months, so the only reason to buy it is (1) if you like the model as is (without any "changes" for the 2012), and (2) if you get a good deal to justify the "old" age of the vehicle.
The comments I read seem to knock the cheapness of the dash. I checked it out, and don't feel that way. I think it is fine. The other comment was maybe improved MPG. That would be great, but not a deciding factor for me. So my issue more has to do with price, and I am inclined to keep searching until I find the price point I want. And if that takes too long, it would bring me closer to the 2012 release date, and then we start with a "newer" model, maybe some changes, but without the rebate/reduced money factor/financing offer, so left to our own resources for negotiation and price.
So the question is: is it worth $1,000 to negotiate harder now for that sweet deal that you can't refuse because you get a new car you like as-is with the age factored in the price, or wait and see what the 2012s will bring?
#11455 of 12158 Re: Is this a good quote [ecolorado]
by minivan10
Aug 24, 2011 (1:43 pm)
Ecolorado, could you clarify whether the 32715 included tax, title, license fees?
thanks
#11456 of 12158 Re: Sienna XLE $32000 OTD Price [surewin]
by minivan10
Aug 24, 2011 (3:04 pm)
Could you clarify how $32000 is your OTD price when your sub-total came up to $31563? Isn't tax, title, license registration, etc. all that add up to $2300??
#11457 of 12158 Quote for Toyota Sienna LE 2011
by acohen74
Aug 24, 2011 (6:36 pm)
I just got a quote from a dealership in central New Jersey for a 2011 Sienna LE with the following options:
- Carpet Floor Mats with Door Sill protector
- Lower door molding
- Quote was $29500 + sales tax + $279 doc fee. (Destination charge included)
- 1.9% financing for 60 months
- Option to purchase extended Toyota Care Warranty for 8 years/75000 miles with $0 deductible - $1500 (I'm planning on keeping the vehicle a long time)
Seems reasonable but wonder if I could do better. Any thoughts?
#11458 of 12158 Using dealer cost info to negotiate 2011 Sienna XLE price
by minivan10
Aug 24, 2011 (8:08 pm)
Any feedback on how I am calculating dealer cost shown below? I've used numbers that local dealers showed me when I asked for their invoice. Has anyone paid this price for a 2011 XLE?
Base MSRP: $30338
(+)Destination charge: $895
(-) Holdback: $660
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Dealer Cost: $30573
(-) Cash Rebate: $1000
(+) Tax, Title, License, Registration (TT&L): $2360
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Drive out: $31993
Appreciate any comments on this. I've visited two dealerships in my neighborhood. I start negotiations by asking them to show their invoice. They show me a dealer invoice price of $32600 (excluding TT&L). When I state my opening offer as $30573, our negotiation stalls. We don't make too much progress from there.
Any suggestions? Is my calculation of dealer cost wrong to begin with?
#11460 of 12158 Re: Using dealer cost info to negotiate 2011 Sienna XLE price [minivan10]
by 04max
Aug 24, 2011 (9:59 pm)
your base price is off by 400, but the calculation looks good. 29.7 (including 1000 rebate) for Base XLE is a very good price. did you try zag quote?
#11461 of 12158 Re: Quote for Toyota Sienna LE 2011 [04max]
by acohen74
Aug 25, 2011 (6:22 am)
Are you in NJ? This quote is pretty close to a USAA/ZAG quote for same vehicle.
#11462 of 12158 Re: 2011 Sienna LE [wsm9953]
by vincey
Aug 25, 2011 (11:46 am)
Did you get $1000 military or recent graduate rebates to get down to this price? In Philly area, I can't even get the dealers to get down to $27,400
#11463 of 12158 Re: Quote for Toyota Sienna LE 2011 [acohen74]
by 04max
Aug 25, 2011 (5:58 pm)
Zag price quote for Bridgewater zip comes to 28k with 1k rebate or 29k without, which is 500 less than yours. IMHO, you should finance through DCU.org for 1.99 APR and also get 1k toyota rebate.
did you try fitzmall,PA? they have listed LE for 28k + tax + 2.99 APR for 60 months. If you don't mind driving some 200 miles, try toyotaofdartmouth, MA. They have LE for 27k.
Good luck!