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#10482 of 12250 certified used 2009 Sienna LE 8 passenger FWD
Jun 05, 2010 (10:21 pm)
Hi, I'm considering buying a certified used 2009 Sienna LE 8 passenger FWD from a Toyota dealership (in the San Francisco bay area). It has about 41k miles on it. According to the information at http://www.toyotacertified.com when I enter the VIN #, it has the le and le awd extra value package #2. I guess this corresponds to the QF option. I also would have thought it would have the DRL option (Windshield wiper de-icer grid and Daytime Running Lights option) since I thought the QF and DRL options were packaged together for 2009 models, but it's not explicitly mentioned.
The dealership's posted price on their web site is $19,991. The van has a clean carfax history with 1 owner, but it was an ex-rental van.
I've never bought a used vehicle before, much less an ex-rental. I'm kind of surprised it already has 41k miles after only about 1 year 4 months from when it was originally purchased new, but I guess rentals accumulate a lot of mileage on them. The certified used designation is a bit re-assuring, but not sure how much it really means or if it's just a marketing gimmick.
I was originally looking at buying a new 2011 Sienna LE 8 passenger, but hate the 8th mini seat in the new model. Need to be able to install 3 child car seats in the 2nd row and can't do that with the mini seat. So then I started looking at an older Sienna 8 passenger options.
Is $19,991 a fair price or is this inflated too high? Realistically, how much lower could I negotiate on this van? Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
#10483 of 12250 Re: certified used 2009 Sienna LE 8 passenger FWD [dann80]
Jun 06, 2010 (7:39 am)
Just my thoughts. 19.9K for a ex-rental with 41K sounds high. At 41K, that van generated a lot of mileage revenue. (Or, if rented with unlimited miles, someone got a good deal)
My experience, rental vehicles got rode hard and put away wet. Regardless of how well maintained, they were driven by people that didn't really care at the end of the day.
Is this an AWD? If so, do you really need an AWD? Don't they have the run flat tires a lot of owners complain about? Quick wear out and high cost to replace.
#10484 of 12250 Re: Sienna AWD Ltd., Northern NJ [bellmonster]
Jun 06, 2010 (8:56 am)
Yes, package was the LDT Premium Package (PT) $4,025. Includes, among other things, DVD, Nav., JBL 4 CD changer w. MP3, and Bluetooth.
#10485 of 12250 Re: certified used 2009 Sienna LE 8 passenger FWD [nobo]
Jun 06, 2010 (12:07 pm)
No, it's a FWD so no run flat tires (which I agree not having is a good thing). I was thinking of a target price of 18k (maybe with an intial offer of $17.5k). Does that sound reasonable or would the dealer think I'm low-balling them?
#10486 of 12250 Dealer extras - which ones?
Jun 06, 2010 (7:39 pm)
On 2011 Sienna... Besides extended warranty, what other extras do you recommend? Paint protection, leather protection, etc.? And does anyone have prices paid for these? Thank you. May try to make deal tomorrow.
#10487 of 12250 Re: 2011 Sienna LTD 2WD [sienna_owner]
Jun 07, 2010 (1:22 pm)
Interesting....... I just purchased that this last week and was told the opposite. Please email me personally at nmlittle1msn.com. That way we can compare names of people we doubt with. I have an email in writing from the person in charge of that department at the Kansas dealership that after the 7years/100K I would receive a full refund if not used.
Let compare notes........
#10488 of 12250 2011 Sienna XLE Entertainment Only option ?
Jun 07, 2010 (2:19 pm)
I'm looking to purchase an XLE. In my Region, Toyota only ships Nav and Premium option package Siennas. I only want entertainment and am looking to special order so to avoid having to purchase the bundled Premium package. Can anyone tell me.....If i purchase the Entertainment package only, am i missing out on any functionality that would be provided to the entertainment system (DVD system)? Or are these options bundled purely to increase revenue? grrr!
#10489 of 12250 Re: 2011 Sienna XLE Entertainment Only option ? [rhoabr]
Jun 07, 2010 (5:12 pm)
I have the XLE with Entertainment package only. It works quite well. We can control it through the remote controller or through the car stereo control panel. The DVD/stereo integration is reasonably user friendly.
I was debating to get the Entertainment package or get the DVD installed separately for a lot cheaper. Now I am glad I made that decision based on what I need, even it's way over price.
The nice thing is it's also covered by toyota warranty. I am thinking to get the 7yr or 8yr warranty. This thing will be also covered by that. Those expensive electronics can break down anytime after 3 years, some additional warranty might be useful.
#10490 of 12250 Re: 2011 Sienna LTD 2WD [retriever1]
Jun 07, 2010 (6:50 pm)
Which dealer did you get the warranty from?
#10491 of 12250 Re: 2011 Sienna LTD 2WD [toy_fan1]
Jun 07, 2010 (10:32 pm)
just curious if you two ever "compared notes." we are soon to be purchasing from Kansas city dealer as well and wondered if this was really true. thanks.