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Toyota Sienna, Car Buying, Van
#2 of 12252 How can they offer me invoice?
May 11, 2000 (5:36 pm)
We are about ready for the final step on an LE with TO--towing, UN (power windows etc.) bumper guard,and cargo net. I've read a lot of the back comments and it appears that Sienna's are now easier to purchase at lower prices than about 8 months ago, but where does the profit come in for the deal (in other words) what do we watch out for when they say "we know you're using the internet and have invoice prices from Edmunds etc. so let's just cut to the chase, and here's our offer. How much room is there to negotiate? We know there's that $1,000.00 rebate on MSRP, but they state that doesn't affect invoice. Will we hit once we start to close with hidden costs? Help! We'd like to do this soon.
#3 of 12252 Ed, are we looking for the same car?
May 11, 2000 (5:42 pm)
We are also looking for a Sailfin Blue, several available on the Milwaukee area, don't know where you are. We have heard that the towing package is an OPTION, my husband wants it because we travel a lot and he feels it's better for the tranny. Sometimes it's difficult to keep all the options straight, but if you look at my previous posting you'll see our description. Here in WI they are offering us this for 23,349 or 23,218, almost sounds to good to be true, but we've gotten this type of offer from 4 dealers, maybe they're slower around here or incentives we don't know about
#4 of 12252 Just bought an LE on Tuesday! (m)
May 11, 2000 (7:30 pm)
We got a Silver Spruce Metallic LE with UN (TO pkg was on the car but was told that the ones they have on site all do; they'd have to order one without....whatever!)
We paid $24,031. Here's the breakdown:
Sienna LE $22,148
TO Pkg 128
UN Pkg 271
TOTAL "Invoice": 23,830
We paid $24,031. Difference: $201
Of course I think the TDA (advertising) and the FIE (factory installed equipment) are a load of crap and are most likely just profit for them. Still, I feel it was the best deal I could get in my area (NYC metro area). I checked at more than one dealer to see if they could do better and they were all like "buy it from the other guy; I can't come close to that number let alone beat it."
Should I have argued on the FIE and TDA charges?
#5 of 12252 SOUTHEAST PROBLEMS
May 12, 2000 (3:08 am)
I HAVE SPOKEN WITH SEVERAL DEALERS IN CHARLOTTE,NC. AND SEVERAL IN SOUTH CAROLINA..NONE HAVE BEEN THAT GREAT...FIVE STATES ARE HANDLED BBY ONE DISTRIBUTOR AND HE DICTATES.... ALL CARS START OFF WITH A $300..ADM FEE + $15 ADD DEST FEE(OVER $480) + MOST HAVE TOYO GUARD (INVOICE 399-454, LIST 599-699)...SO ALL THE PRICES ARE HIGH AND HIGHER.....I AM LOOKING OUTSIDE THIS REGION....I JUST GOT A QUOTE VIA THE INTERNET FROM A DEALER IN JOHNSON CITY, TN FOR 5% OVER INVOICE.??????(AT LEAST IT DID NOT HAVE AFORE MENTIONED COSTS......I THINK WE SHOULD START A BOYCOTT OF THE SOUTHEAST REGION.....
I'M DRIVING MY WIFE CRAZY BECAUSE I KEEP HEARING ABOUT ALL THE GOOD DEALS....I JUST CAN'T SEEM TO FIND ONEEEEEEEEE.....
#6 of 12252 nuwave1...exactly WHAT is Toyo Guard? (m)
May 12, 2000 (3:46 pm)
Um, I never heard of that. Or an administrative fee. Nothing like that came up in my purchase in the New York City area this past Tuesday.
Of course they did charge me for advertising (398) and for "factory installed equipment" (399) and for fuel (6). I think these dealers just come up with something to call their PROFIT when they know they're dealing with customers who have all the invoice prices and are doing their homework.
Good luck in your car search!
#7 of 12252 we've sent our e--mails, waiting for results
May 12, 2000 (7:36 pm)
We are still waiting in Milwaukee area to see what the dealers will offer. We sent e-mails as have been suggested in previous postings,listing our requested price. Around here, they are offering 100-300 over invoice, maybe you southeasterners should try our northern climes. And yes what the heck IS Toyo Guard. Maybe they'll try and pull that on us once we get in, but they can tell that we've shopped around and used forums and info like this, and seem to realize that we'll walk.
#8 of 12252 LE in tri-state area
May 12, 2000 (9:34 pm)
After using half a dozen Internet sites (autobytel, carpoint, carsdirect, cars.com ...) to send out request quotes, I finally got a deal I think it's "fair" from Toyota of Morristown, NJ.
Here is the breakdown:
LE invoice: 22148
Will go and pick it up tomorrow (5/13). I hope
the deal will go through.
#9 of 12252 Good price/dealer in NH?
May 13, 2000 (1:45 pm)
Can anyone recommend a good Toyota dealer (and salesperson) in New Hampshire? We are looking for a new Sienna and would appreciate any recommendations. Also, what kind of prices are you paying for an LE? Thanks!
May 13, 2000 (6:52 pm)
what dealership and sales person did you deal with? thanks