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#390 of 1309 More on 2002 AWD
Sep 20, 2001 (9:29 pm)
I have not driven the new van enough to formulate an opinion on the difference between it and the 1999 GLS that we traded in. The AWD Silhouette comes with Goodyear Integrity tires (225/60-16), just slightly more M+S looking than the normal touring tires. The AWD Silhouette has distinctive wheels (no chrome available) and a "VersaTrak AWD" emblem on the rear hatch underneath the Oldsmobile emblem. The factory sticker has no information other than to say that it is a shipping label only, to be replaced by a proper label on arival (it does include the VIN), but since the van was built to order (all of the build sheets state order type "sold") that does not really matter.
#391 of 1309 First Picture of 2002 AWD
Sep 21, 2001 (6:55 am)
A picture of the new wheel style for the 2002 Silhouette AWD is at http://photos.yahoo.com/clairhardesty . Look in the car pictures album. I will post more pictures of the van and the 2002 Aurora soon.
Sep 21, 2001 (7:50 am)
Too bad you didn't wait till 9-20-01 to buy both of your new Old's. GM announced 0% financing on all new 2001 & 2002 GM models. Sure beats 5.9%.
#393 of 1309 New GM Rates
Sep 21, 2001 (10:10 am)
Actually, on the 2002 Silhouette, the rate for the 5yr loan goes from 5.9% to 4.9%, and on the Aurora from 5.9% to 2.9%. We took the $1000 rebate (unchanged) on the Aurora and got other financing. We were unable to wait on the van due to the closeout of our local Oldsmobile dealership. If we had waited until today to sign papers, we whould have had to ship the van to another dealer (at least 40 miles away), they would not have to sell it to us (dealers are not required to do employee sales), and we would have to re-negotiate the trade-in of our 1999 Silhouette. It would be quite possible that a new dealer would keep the van (and not let us have it) as they seem to be chomping at the bit to get the AWD models. In our particular case, our deal is still fantastic, after tax, CA DMV, and trade (only half paid for), we financed $29K on a van with a $37K sticker.
#394 of 1309 2001 Silo GLS Stalling
Sep 22, 2001 (5:47 pm)
Just found this site and I was wondering if any of you out there experienced this problem: The car stalls and won't start in hot weather. I just bought our 01 Silo GLS 2 weeks ago. The first time it died was Tuesday at 280 miles in a hot afternoon here in sunny Florida. Dealer came and towed it. The next morning they said it starts fine and there was no error code set on the computer. So I took it home. It starts fine in the mornings while it was cool. Then on Thursday evening, I went out to dinner with the GM of the company and the car died at the restaurant (how embarrassing!) with 327 miles. I called OnStar and they performed engine diagnostic remotely (cool!) and found no code set. It took them and AAA an hour to arrive and they are not allowed to provide rides home (what was I suppose to do 45 minutes from home?). Since it was late and the outside temperature cooled down, I tried to start it... and it ran. So, yesterday I was on my way home from work, it stalled again in the hot Florida sun at 365 miles. This time in the middle of the intersection. This time it took OnStar and the dealer 45 minutes to pick-up the car. Again, there is no code set on the car's computer.
Needless to say, in my rage I am glad Olds is closing its doors for good. Anyway, am I the only one who has a lemon or are there more of you out there?
Sep 22, 2001 (6:49 pm)
Sounds like a problem I had with my last car (a Lincoln). The fuel pump was failing on hot days. I could drive to work every morning fine but the car stalled a couple of days in a row when I was coming home. Changed out the fuel pump and everything was fine. Don't know if that's the same problem with your Silo but you might check with the dealer.
#396 of 1309 Stalling, etc.
Sep 23, 2001 (5:55 am)
I'm not sure I would suspect the fuel pump on the Silhouette since it is in the gas tank and should not heat up much. Since no codes are stored, the service people should do a thorough search of components that are not tied into the diagnostic system. I would suspect something under the hood, as this area heats up considerably above air temp if the vehicle is in the sun or has been run. You did not say if there was any loss of electrical power, if not loss of fuel is the most likely cause. The fuel pressure regulator could be at fault. Other more esoteric possibilities are: a cracked fuse element (bad from the start) that seperates when hot (ignition system), a wire somewhere in the power to the coils that was damaged during build, malfunction of some kind in an unmonitored section of the theft deterrent system. Bottom line, the dealer should keep the van until the real problem is found and fixed!
#397 of 1309 2002 AWD first drive impressions
Sep 23, 2001 (6:21 am)
I got to drive the 2002 AWD Silhouette yesterday on a short trip that included: a 4 mile 6% grade, flat but windy 55mph freeway, a 1/2 mile 8% grade, lots of very bumpy surface streets, a short,twisty 15% grade, and some of my normal commute routes (can you tell that we live in the mountains?). The van feels much heavier that the 1999 GLS and requires more push on the gas pedal to make it go, but the engine and tranny respond and the van gets up and goes just fine. It has a much firmer on center feel (nice), and corners much better. Braking is excellent, and the pedal feel is familiar (like the 1999), though still soft when compared to my Aurora. The transmission did a great job of gear selection for the 65mph 6% climb and held the proper gear all the way up. The 8% short grade was handled equally well, but it is only a 55mph climb. The 15% twisty is on a 35mph road, and the van dropped to 2nd gear as the pedal was pushed to maintain speed. You can really tell the weight difference here, but again plenty of power is on tap. Cornering is much flatter than the 1999, the van just feels tighter and inspires more confidence. I like it, there will be less (though still a fair amount) of a difference when I change from the daily drives in the Aurora to the weekend trips in the van.
So, has anyone else got a 2002 AWD van yet? Anybody taken a test drive? Any road sightings?
#398 of 1309 Has AWD been seen by anyone?
Sep 23, 2001 (7:17 am)
I've checked the 3 GM dealers who sell the mini-vans and none of them can tell me when they might even get any in. It ashame but quite a few salesmen didn't even know they sold an AWD mini-van.
I'm in Cleveland Oh. A salesmen did a 300 mile search and couldn't locate one.
Just curious if anyone else knows of a dealer that has an AWD in stock?
I even checked the gmbuypower.com and checked different states but still couldn't find one.
#399 of 1309 Stalling, etc.
Sep 23, 2001 (5:12 pm)
Thanks, mrushing and hardesty. The electricals worked just fine. It just acted like it was starving for fuel. I haven't heard from the dealer yet, but I will keep this message board updated just in case there are others out there with similar problem.