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#4206 of 4469 2003 MPV LX Hard Shifting
Aug 30, 2005 (5:41 pm)
After reading about the hard shifting problem on these message boards, and decided I wasn't driving like a Mad Man (wife's explanation) I took my 2003 MPV LX to the Mazda dealer and had him drive the vehicle. They said the trans. was slipping and replaced the "Trans. Range Sensor" test drove the vehicle and stated the shift problem was solved. Well my MPV still has the hard shifting. I gave it two weeks to see if it would fix itself over time (wife's suggestion) I called the dealer back and we discussed the software down load, re-flash the "TCM" and re program the"PCM" and he told yes he had heard of that problem and had done the procedure "a number of times" but my MPV serial number didn't match the ones that needed the upgrade. Do I press him for the software re-flash "TCM" and re program the "PCM"? From what I have been reading it seems all 2003 and 2004 MPV models could benefit from the software flash upgrade. The Dunlop tires are the pits, bald after 29 thousand miles. I will be getting a new set of the Michelin Hydroedge soon if I feel the trans. issue is resolved. Let me know if I am getting the run around, Thanks in advance - Brewchef
#4207 of 4469 Re: Service Dept giving me the business? [laday]
Aug 31, 2005 (3:28 am)
I've just had a transmission repaird .I had the same problem even before 40000 miles.I complained at the dealership couple times and they testdrive it and said they couldn't see any problems.After 80000(not more than 6 months later trans. broke down.I have to pay over $3000 .my advice to You is to sell right after warranty expired .(I made trans.oil flush at dealership after 45.000-didn't help).AAmco tech said there had to be problem with trans before and it just got worst and worst over time until it broke.Looks like they are "chitters" and don't care at all(mazda dealer).
Anyone can advice me if I should fight them for not taking care of the problem before?Does it make any sense to even call?
#4208 of 4469 Re: 2001 MPV TRANSMISSION FAILURE [davehenry]
Jan 04, 2005 (11:03 am)
Stay away from any subsidary of the Ford Motor Company!
Had the same problem and now I pay over $3000 at aamco!
Anyone else wont to sign up?!
#4209 of 4469 Re: tire recommendation for MPV [sweet_subie]
Aug 31, 2005 (3:47 am)
I bought michelins for my 2002 mpv after 40000 miles.I'm over 80000 now and just rotated it-they look quite good (as for over 40000).
Sell it befor warranty is gone,though because of tens of other problems and lock of cooperation from mazda(I just paid $3200 for transmissiot repair -after only 80000 miles oil flush after 40000 and few complains at dealership(not resolved).
#4210 of 4469 Re: 2003 MPV LX Hard Shifting [brewchef]
Aug 31, 2005 (6:02 am)
Well. I would certainly press him to fix it. He didn't fix it the first time so he needs to keep trying. I have read of a dealership putting in a new TCM or PCM...can't remember which...after many unsuccesful reflashes...which helped.
It does seem odd that your TCM was never reflashed.I'd get my serial number and do a google on Mazda MPV TSB's and find out if it needs to be. Also, consider taking it to another dealership.The good news is the dealership was able to duplicate the problem...so now the burden is on them in fixing it. I'd stay on them like ugly on an ape.
#4211 of 4469 Re: 2003 MPV LX Hard Shifting [brewchef]
Sep 01, 2005 (3:11 am)
My 2003 MPV LX also shifts hard. I have had it in several times and each time it is ok for a bit and then it starts to shift hard again. I'm in my MPV ALOT plus we tow a camper with it. I finally decided (after discussing it with my hubby) that it's the way the vehicle shifts. Could I be setting myself up for worse probs in the future?
#4212 of 4469 Re: 2003 MPV LX Hard Shifting [taxigal]
Sep 01, 2005 (6:10 am)
No...that's not the way it's suppose to shift. And, yes you are setting yourself up for probs in the future.Keep taking it back till it is fixed. Insist on a Mazda service rep look at it. Take it to another Mazda dealership...and stay on them like ugly on an ape.
If it's been shifting hard for 2 years...you may want to look into an extended warranty for the transmission. Save all service documentation on work done on transmission. May help is you do have a prob in future.
#4213 of 4469 Re: Randomly Won't Start (Can't Hold Idle) [lrowland]
Sep 06, 2005 (10:27 am)
Yes, the problem has finally been solved (knock on wood) after 2 mos and $350! As the service manager suspected, it was the idle air control valve. For about a month, the car would rev way up every time I started it -- except for a couple of times when it wouldn't start unless I sat w/my foot on the gas til it was close to normal temperature, then I had to drive so my foot was always on the gas (fun). When it idled, the car shook slightly. Over the 2 months I wrestled w/this, I noticed power was down and gas consumption was up a bit. The exhaust also smelled wrong -- maybe more like gasoline, if that makes sense. And near the end, it did groan a couple of times from the dash area when I started it up, as if something stuck was releasing.
What finally tipped the balance was not getting it to start a couple of times in a row, so it was bad enough that the folks in the shop could actually tell what was going on. And of course, it doesn't trigger the check engine light.
Sorry to blather on, but I'm hoping some of this will sound familiar, and you can get your car fixed! Good luck!
#4214 of 4469 Re: Service Dept giving me the business? [mattnj]
Sep 06, 2005 (5:50 pm)
I am taking my 2003 MPV to the dealer to complain for the 7th time this week. The hard shift occurs after slowing down (at a stop sign or in traffic, but not coming to a complete stop and starting up again - especially if I'm going uphill), it seems as though the transmission is confused - sometimes I get a minor jerk and other times it feels like the transmission is going to fall out the bottom of the van.
I contacted a lemon law attorney in PA in July, and they took the case. Rather or not I'll get anything out of it remains to be seen, but it's worth a try. Currently I have 43000 miles (getting close to out of warranty)
I also have another problem that doesn't want to go away: when making right turns I have a knocking sound coming from the back. The dealership has told me this is also a common problem and there is currently no fix for it.
No more Mazda's for me!
#4215 of 4469 Re: Service Dept giving me the business? [laday]
Sep 07, 2005 (2:45 am)
this may help, but because of Edmunds rules, i can't provide the link to the specific forum,
but google for this:
follow the link in the TSB also for this:
sounds like you might need to find another dealership.