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#778 of 2391 Vibration of Radiator fan on DC AWD 2001
Mar 14, 2001 (9:04 pm)
I am new to the forum. I have a Dodge Grand caravan ES AWD 2001. I have made 7000 miles. I have read through most of your messages. I am familiar with most of your concerns and observations.
I have noticed the 2100 rpm vib-in my case it is more like a HUM or DRONE noise.
MORE CONCERNING however seems to be a radiator FAN VIBRATION that is felt through the whole front of the vehicle especially when the car is not moving. It is quite unpleasant since it sometimes even makes your hands tingle a bit. I still own an old 1998 GC that does not produce any similar vibs.
Would await any ideas!
#779 of 2391 tomtomtom - dangling tube
Mar 15, 2001 (10:39 am)
I also noticed the small hose running down which is visible from the left front wheel well. I'll trace it up to see what its connected to. Did you verify its function from the dealers?
#780 of 2391 tomtomtom
Mar 15, 2001 (11:01 am)
Can you tell me your experience with installing the running boards on the T&C? Did it come pre-painted to match your Patriot Blue? Any special tools needed or tricks to the install?
I also wanted to poll other owners on the merits of the cargo tray for the back. Does anyone have this option, and is it useful? I saw the video tape and it looks pretty nifty, but lets hear it from users. Thanks.
#781 of 2391 Re: dangling tube
Mar 15, 2001 (12:24 pm)
It very well may be the overflow tube for the coolant system. I believe most systems have an overflow tube running from the coolant resevoir so that in extreme overheating conditions, after the overflow resevoir is full, additional hot coolant/water would be expelled via the tube towards the ground.
This is based on my knowledge/experience with working on my own cars, not this particular Chrysler product. Let's see what the dealer says.
#782 of 2391 Re: Trip Computer on LTD
Mar 15, 2001 (1:34 pm)
Cary28 - Thank you for the information. It encompasses more functionality than I had imagined. However I had forgotten that the Limited also offers driver presets on mirror settings and the like. I didn't realize they incorporated them into the overhead system.
I just wish Chrysler offered the more versatile seating arrangement on the Limited....
#783 of 2391 running boards, hose
Mar 15, 2001 (2:55 pm)
Cary, I bought the running boards and spoiler from Anderson the day I bought the van because Sharon was able to get a discount from the parts dept. The boards are pre-painted to the color of the van so I thought it would be a matter of putting it on with a few screws here and there...but I was wrong!! You have to drill some holes underneath the color and there was no clear mark to show where the hinges suppose to go and the instruction was horrible. So I ended up taking it to a body shop and have them installed it for $200. Anderson would do the installation also but they would charge $380. BKSutton, thanks for the information, that was what I thought the hose is for but i didn't think DC would just leave it hanging like this. So I went to the dealer and checked out the other T&C in the lot. They all have a hose hanging down so I didn't bother to go to the service department.
#784 of 2391 dimitero - vibration, noise
Mar 15, 2001 (4:52 pm)
As an owner of a 2001 ES AWD with 8,500 miles on it, I can tell you that I have not experienced any fan vibration problem. I'd see what the dealer has to say about that. If he calls it "normal" challenge him to show you any other AWD on the lot that exhibits the same noise.
Regarding the 2100 rpm resonance on the AWDs, your descriptive words of "drone" and "hum" certainly apply. (For fun you might challenge your dealer to show you any other AWD on the lot that DOES NOT exhibit the resonance
Based on my discussions with my dealership and off-line emails with others experiencing this same problem (2100 rpm resonance), it's very clear that Chrysler is aware of the problem, and that they have done some (unknown) amount of investigating. They seem convinced that the problem is exclusive to the AWD vehicles. District personnel in two districts that I'm aware of are offering no assurances that there will be a fix, however.
I was personally told (by my dealership) that in Chrysler's experimenting, they succeeded in shifting the problem from 2100 rpm to 4500 rpm, but I have not been able to confirm that. Nor were they offering any suggestion that a solution is imminent.
In my case, I'm planning to carefully document my telephone conversations and service trips on this topic in a letter to the District Sales Manager so that if and when a fix is available there is a record of my issue. I would encourage all other AWD owners to do the same.
As posted earlier, if someone is considering an AWD he/she should carefully assess whether this resonance is tolerable before committing. Several of us believe the degree of resonance varies somewhat based on ambient temperature (worse when cold). One Chrysler person believes the main variables are driving habits (how you accelerate) and personal tolerance levels. I tend to agree.
So even though this topic has grown cold in the forum, there are at least several of us continuing to pursue it offline.
#785 of 2391 BKSutton - Trip Computer
Mar 15, 2001 (6:37 pm)
This is a first for minivan trip computers, the ability to change factory presets via user setup. I didn't mean to imply that the memory seats/mirrors are controlled by the overhead console. You can, however, program your remote controls via the trip computer to assign different controllers to the two memory setting, cool!
BTW, I've been very happy with the T&C Ltd after living with it for about a week. It is so quiet and luxurious, with so many gadgets and fancy features, that I am impressed with its value every time I sit behind the wheel. The leather and suede seats are very comfortable, pampering, and supportive. And there is so much room in the back, with such nice amenities as the separate climate controls, really capable stereo system, 4-Disc changer and steering wheel controls are easy to use, and no problems of any kind yet!
I have not heard any noise or vibrations at 2100RPM, no pulling to left or right, the power doors work very well(much better than the Ody), my son loves the integrated child seat(his version of the "adult seat"), headlights are pretty good, and I love the autochromatic rear/side mirrors. I can only hope the insulation material doesn't get worn down too much with time, as I'm sure I will hear more road noise as the van ages.
I'll give another update after spending more time with this new toy.
Mar 15, 2001 (6:58 pm)
I called the dealer and he said to bring in the vehicle for a check up. Rolfe, I find your suggestions very helpful, thanks!
Only problem they do not have so many AWD to compare
He also said there should be no vibrations and probably the fans need to be balanced.
During the visit I plan to bring up the 2100 rpm issue.
Just to let you know at about 1000miles I had problem with a sensor responsible for mixing air and gas I guess. The car would almost stall on occasions. The dealership replaced the part and everything has been o.k. since,
No other major flaws sofar.
#787 of 2391 Excessive Road Feel
Mar 15, 2001 (8:38 pm)
I recently bought a 2001 Grand Caravan EX. I also own a 1987 Plymouth Voyager LE with 241,000 miles (Original engine & transmission). I have a prostate condition that makes me sensitive to road feel. Something other folks like. I've noticed that my power driver seat in my 2001 is more uncomfortable than the power driver seat in my Voyager. Someone told me that one of the causes is that the pretensioning seat belt requires Dodge to use a firmer seat. As a result, the seat aborbs less shock from the road. Does this make any sense to y'all? Any ideas on how I can minimize the road feel? I'm uncomfortable driving the van for more than a few miles. I recently reduced air pressure in the tires and will see if that helps. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!