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Replying to: sja (Dec 27, 2007 4:38 pm) |
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Replying to: sja (Dec 27, 2007 4:38 pm) Are they telling you they won't sell you one or that they don't have any in stock to sell you? Best Regards, Shipo |
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As many of you know we have two DGCs, a 1998 Sport 3.8 and a 2003 ES 3.8. Back in 2005 I mounted a set of the (then) new Goodyear Assurance TripleTred tires (215/65 R16) on both of our vans. Here we are some 28 months later and the 1998 has already racked up some 65,000 miles on that set of rubber, and while the TripleTreds still had some tread left on them, we've already had well over 50" of snow this winter, and their grip (the set on the 1998 that is) in the snow was a tad nervous, especially as we live in an area with lots of hilly and winding roads. Faced with the prospect of yet another 100+ inch snow winter, I decided that after 65,000 miles I'd gotten my money out of them and it was time for a new set. Initially my "short list" for new tires was simple, 1) another set of TripleTreds, or 2) a set of Yokohama AVID TRZ tires that have gotten a number of good reviews over the years and are very reasonably priced. A week or so before I pulled the trigger on the tires I came across reviews from several individuals that had put the very new Cooper CS4 Touring tires on their Chrysler minivans, and had nothing but good things to say about their new shoes. I did a little research and found that a set of four could be had for virtually the same price as the Yokohamas, however, the Yokos are getting a little long in the tooth as they have been on the market for several years now while Cooper is using some very new technology to build the CS4s (apparently the same technology as Michelin is using on their new Primacy MXV4 model). Given the relatively modest cost of these tires and their almost ridiculous tread wear warranty of 80,000 miles (yeesh, our 1998 already has well over 150,000 miles on it), I figured they'd be worth a gamble. Even thought I have less than a thousand miles on the new Coopers, the miles I have driven have ranged from dry 50 degree road surfaces to cold and wet, ice covered and snow covered up to about six inches. Compared to the TripleTreds that the CS4s replaced, the comparison categories that I can think of stack up as follows: Dry grip: Tie Wet grip: Tie Snow grip: CS4 (by a wide margin) Road noise: CS4 (the TripleTreds weren't all that noisy, the CS4s are just quieter) Braking: Tie Cushy ride: CS4 (I like a firmer ride and prefer the TripleTreds in this category) Lateral grip: TripleTred (by a narrow margin) Steering response: TripleTred (a subtle but noticeable difference) Smoothness when cold: CS4 (the TripleTreds would flat-spot a bit when it was below 10 degrees and would take a few miles to smooth out) All in all, these are fairly comparable tires, and given that the CS4s can be had for about $100 less per set (out the door) than the TripleTreds, I think Cooper has done a commendable job on these tires. I predict that they will become very popular with the minivan crowd. Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: kwokmansung (Aug 02, 2007 12:14 am) i know its 6 months gone since last post. i still had the problem until november, the car went altogether, i had no power at all. i put a volt meter on the battery, it read 12v, when i turned the ignition it went down to 3v, there was now low power clicking, just dead. the transit van i have has got excactly the same battery, so i thought i would try the crysler bettery on that. i disconnected the neg, but when i tried to disconnect the live it was stuck fast, i took the bolt out and gently opened the gripper with a large blade driver, it opened with a crack, inside the gripper and the battery terminal was dry corrosion, i cleaned both till nice and shiny with wire wall, put a bit of copper grease on both live and neg. i have not had the problem since, car seams to runn better too, i suppose its not over working the alternator. regards. gary. |
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Replying to: shipo (Jan 04, 2008 8:19 pm) Thank you for the post! I had TripleTreds on my '96 Outback and found them to be the best performing all-season tires I had tried. I gave up some fuel economy with them, but no regrets having purchased them. I will certainly keep the Coopers in mind if/when I need to replace the tires on the '98 GC.
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Replying to: xwesx (Jan 07, 2008 11:00 am) Last summer I managed to milk a record number of miles out of a single tank from our 1998 3.8 liter DGC Sport (500+ miles on one tank, 28.2 mpg between a point fifteen miles southwest of Port Huron, MI and the NY-Thruway rest area outside of Albany, NY), and that was with the TripleTreds on the van. Other than that trip, I cannot say that any of the three different types of tires on that van have affected the fuel economy to any measurable degree (or the Bridgestone EL42 vs. the TripleTreds on our 2003 DGC ES for th at matter). Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: shipo (Jan 07, 2008 2:35 pm) Who knows though. The car had 195,000 miles on it when the tires were installed, so anything is possible. They were still fabulous tires! 
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Replying to: xwesx (Jan 07, 2008 2:50 pm) Best Regards, Shipo
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Replying to: shipo (Jan 07, 2008 5:08 pm) 
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Replying to: xwesx (Jan 07, 2008 6:16 pm)
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