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Gee, srehme and faninbigd, what can I say? Not that this is any consolation, but '96 *is* the first model year of the van's new design, and GM is notorious for lots of bugs in their first-year models. I also have long been concerned with the fact that many conversion companies use 1500 vans instead of 2500 or higher. The conversion stuff adds a lot of weight to the van, which has to take its toll somehow or other. Our 31-gal tank also appears empty and will then take only about 24 gallons. That may be intentional on the part of the manufacturer to prevent running out of gas. Last summer, we were on a long cross-country trip, and stupidly left a town without refilling our tank. We found ourselves out in the middle of nowhere, with the needle on empty, praying that maybe the next tiny dot on the map would have a gas station, then the next one. We kept going like that for something like 40 miles, I think, until we were finally relieved to find a gas station. So I think there's plenty of reserve in the tank. |
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I picked up a Savana 1500 SLE 2 weeks ago. Forgot to bargain for a full gas of tank and had to fill up right away. I ended up putting in 29 gallons after the 15 mile trip home. There was a coolant leak due to a hose not being tightened properly. When ABS kicks in, the steering wheel ( and van ) goes left. The ride and noise level are very satisfactory. If the mechanic can eventually repair the brakes , I'll be satisfied. Could the person posting about the distance detector, please keep us up to date about his installation. A nice security system is the GM VSS-150. It works with original GM remote control. |
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The device I installed just over 10 days ago is a Poron. At the moment I believe the model is a Mini 3LV (ref. poronusa.com). I was leery about buying sight unseen and fortunately work near their Gardena California office. The poron rep offered to visit me at my work and demonstrated the unit in his car. I was impressed, temporarily installed it with masking tape, and then plunged in for the clean installation. I have been actually ENJOYING backing up ever since. Unlike the $700 BMW option, this unit actually displays the distance in feet and tenths of feet (metric if you flip the switch). Accuracy is excellent. The installation was a fun project. Anyone who can install a fog lamp can do this. Installation. 2 wires get spliced onto the wires going to the back up light. 1 power and 1 ground. I had previously located these wires behind the interior trim panel (which just pops off) at the back right corner of the van. I opted to solder splice the wires to avoid potential with the quick splice connectors that were supplied. The control unit is about the size of a cigar. I used the supplied double stick tape and attached it onto the rear post (underneath the trim panel). The three detectors mounted to supplied brackets and then under the bumper with supplied double stick tape. It seems possible that in this position, they may one day be knocked off by rocks. So next time I will use pieces of angle aluminum instead of the plastic brackets to give them greater protection. I overachieved at routing the detector wires. Instead of routing them the easy way--up into the doorway and under the black trim along the back bottom of the van, I removed the drain plug from the back right post and installed a grommet. Through this entry I ran a coat hanger down and then taped the detector connectors (modular phone plugs) to the coat hanger. I pulled the wires up and connected them to the control unit. One glitch was having to get an extension for the far left detector so it would reach the control unit. My van is w i d e. I ran the cord for the display up the post. I used the supplied bracket to suspend the display from the headliner/back trim piece by just wedging into place. (The install manual shows the display under the rear view mirror but I prefer the mounting to be where I can see it when I am looking backwards) All my friends think its great. They get out the tape measure, check the distance and are amazed. Because of the additional secure feeling, I don't want a van/truck without one. |
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GM will pay to align the vehicle if it shows signs of pulling within the 1st 6-8000 miles. Not sure of the exact amount. The dealers want $180 to do the first alignment as they must pull and replace a ring. I've been told by the converter who mfg my van to have it done. Most alignment shops will only do a light duty alignment and will not pull the ring. If you feel that your van is pulling and you are within the GM warranty coverage for alignments take it in and ask them to align it under warranty. I was told by a tire dealer to do that but never did because I was not experiencing the problem. I now have a slight pull and must pay the big $$. Once the ring is replaced regular alignments are all that are needed. |
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| Vandalybay1... for those of use who lack the "testicular fortitude" to install this thingy ourselves, what do you recommend? I'm afraid the dealer wouldn't do a decent job. Should I take it to an installer of car audio accessories? Or are the instructions clear enough that even a DIY neophyte can accomplish the installation? | |
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Yes, that's the right kind of talent! An Auto Stereo Installer would have no problem installing the unit. All parts are there including connectors and double stick tape. I agree and I would NOT take it to a dealer--this is out of their specialty. KEY TO SUCCESS: find a person who can take their time (even a talented teen). If it takes as long as 2 hours, then the installer took lunch or was REALLY careful. The job is really easy if you just run the sensor wires up into the door and under the "threshold" piece. Tips: clean mounting surfaces with rubbing alcohol and let dry before using double stick tape. order a sensor cable extension when you buy the kit. PS: Anyone with power steering or brake fluid wetting the outside of the clear/beige colored reservoir? |
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| The chevy express 1500 is rated to tow 6000 lbs,(12100 lb GCVW), don't believe it. The standard axle is a puny 8 3/4 inch ring gear model and will not hold up, I found out the hard way. While towing at 12000 lbs GCVW over Snoqualmie pass in Wa. the rear axle wore out (burned out)and had to be completely rebuilt in Spokane. The dealer was great but as I found out more about this problem I discovered that in the 1500 van and pickups there are 3 different rear axles that can be had in them, make sure you do not take the small one, it won't stand up to towing what chevy says it will tow. | |
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I AM A BUSINESS OWNER WITH 30 TRUCKS AND VANS IN MY FLEET (25VANS). ALL ARE GMC OR CHEVY. UNTIL THE NEW STYLE ARRIVED I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A "GM" MAN. WELL AFTER RUNNING 15 OF THE NEW VANS FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS I AM CHANGING. I HAVE HAD COUNTLESS PROBLEMS AND I MAINTAIN THESE VEHICLES REGULARLY IN AN EFFORT TO AVOID THIS. THE FACTORY BRAKES HAVE BEEN GOING ON ME IN VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE VEHICLES AFTER ABOUT 30000 KM (20000 MILES). THE SIDE HINGES HAVE SIEZED ON 50% OF THE VANS AND GM IS SAYING USER FAULT. LAST WEEK I REPLACED A TRANSMISSION AND A SPEEDOMETER CLUSTER ON ONE VAN FOR $2900.00 CDN (62000MILES) AND TODAY ANOTHER VANS' TRANSMISSION WENT AFTER 40000 MILES. IF I HAD THE TIME I WOULD SEND A DETAILED LIST BUT IT IS A LONG ONE. I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS AND WILL NOT BUY ANOTHER GM/CHEVY PRODUCT FOR A LONG TIME. MAYBE IT DOES HAVE A SMOOTH RIDE LIKE A CAR BUT I NEED A DURABLE WORK TRUCK AND NOT A CADILLAC. |
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I don't blame you for looking elsewhere after all of those problems. I hope your new choice works out as well as the old GM vans did. Please let us know: 1) What model years gave you the most trouble? 2) What model number vans have given you the brake trouble (1500, 2500, or 3500)? 3) What model gave you the transmission trouble? 4) What hinges gave you trouble (front driver/passenger, side cargo, rear cargo? Thanks. |
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I'll strongly agree ANY vehicle SHOULD be able to tow up to its rating without mechanical problems. Gunsnroses1 problems as described just aren't right. I have had problems with other vehicles being damaged by towing. We all know that towing takes a toll on the drivetrain components. For what it is worth and to minimize towing related damage, I use the following formula to determine my "no worries" tow capacity: Manufacturer's rated capability divided by 2. Under no circumstances would I suggest anyone exceed 80% of the listed capacity. If you plan to tow, I recommended we carefully seek out the 3/4 ton or greater vans. In those vans, the brakes and drivetrains are larger than with the 1/2 ton models. How we drive also significantly impacts the towing load upon the drivetrain. For what it is worth, I believe you cannot accelerate at too slow a rate when towing. I'll be careful to heed gunsnroses1's good tip to check out what axle is supplied. |
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