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Dodge Caravan, Dodge Grand Caravan, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Chrysler Town and Country, Van
#870 of 4276 Carleton....
Nov 06, 2001 (2:48 pm)
You've got to understand that the Chrysler vans do in fact have more problems than the foreign competitors such as the Toyota and Honda. I don't call power sliding door problems, unpadded armrests, and rattles qualification to call a product unreliable.
I've had three and know the ups and downs of the Chrysler Corporation. I've stuck by them throughout the 14 years we've owned their products, but it's be stupid for me to say Chrysler produces completely reliable vans after my 1988 lemon, countless reports of bad reliability, 3 different families going through 4 Chrysler transmissions, Consumer Report's bad ratings up until 2000, and the poor resale.
While the three or four people on your block may have had good luck, as I have had with the '96 and '01, facts don't lie. The Chrysler vans (pre 2001) were less reliable. PERIOD We'll see how the 2001's turn out. I'm hoping they'll be better. I know mine is.
If Honda would come out with an Acura van, you bet I'd jump ship with Chrysler, just so I could have the dependably that my Toyota, my son's Honda, and my daughter's fabulous Volkswagen Jetta have brought us.
Chrysler has lured us with their luxury, but if I was only interested in a mid-model equipped van, I'd go for a Toyota Sienna or Honda Odyssey.
My 1988 Grand Voyager - $11,500 in dealer charges on a $20,800 van
My 1996 T&C - annoying rattles and quality issues
My 2001 T&C - perfect
#873 of 4276 DC Minivans
Nov 06, 2001 (7:15 pm)
While Chrysler has and continues to have their fair share of mechanical problems with their minivans, the rate of problems has dramaticly decreased since the 1999 model year. Our 2000 Town & Country now has almost 31k miles on it and hasn't had any significant mechanical problems. Carelton is not alone when he says he knows of many people who have trouble-free DC minivans. There are three other DC minivan owners on my court and none of them have had any problems with their vans. In fact, one of my neighbors has a 1997 Town & Country LXi with over 70k miles on it and when I asked him how he liked his car he replied, "i like it, it hasn't given us any problems, and we have just about 70k miles on it."
Not many Honda Odyssey owners can say that. Especially those who have 1999 Odysseys. I wouldn't exactly call having to have my transmission replaced THREE times good reliability. If you read through the Odyssey problem forum it's littered with posts of people who have had transmission, break, and quality issues with their vans. As far as I can tell, the Odyssey doesn't exactly represent the great Honda engineering and quality I have heard about.
I'll continue to drive my trouble-free 2000 Town & Country LX and laugh at those who think buying a DC minivan automaticly means mechanical trouble. This is our second DC minivan and both have performed very nicely with ZERO problems.
#874 of 4276 1999 Odyssey...
Nov 06, 2001 (8:23 pm)
While some people may have had transmission problems in their 1999 Odyssey's, what about people I know in their Chrysler vans that have gone through numerous transmissions in there 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, and 1996 vans?
It is still unsure if Chrysler has fixed the problem with their 4-speed auto that has dated back to 1989, although post 1997 vans seem to be doing better.
I can't really vouge for the bad transmissions (thank goodness) since I had the 3 speed in the '88 Voyager, and the '96 T&C 4 speed only got up to 37,000 miles until I traded it in. Although, one of my friend's Chrysler only got to 22,000 miles until it was kaput, so I guess I'm just plain lucky (knock on wood).
I guess what I'm saying is, Chrysler has a very spotty past, although they seem to be much better. But Honda seemed to had fixed their transmission problems in one model year, where Chrysler had how many years to address the problem? Exactly. Plus the Ody has a new transmission now anyway.
#875 of 4276 Chrysler Minivan Transmissions
Nov 07, 2001 (2:58 am)
If Chryslers have such good transmissions why is there a site here just for trans problems? Don't see any Odyssey site just for trans problems. How about the 2100rpm noise? How about those mushy armrests?
Nov 07, 2001 (9:08 am)
the Odyssey owners are still trolling the DC topics.
#877 of 4276 I see... by scanner
Nov 07, 2001 (10:02 am)
When you have nothing wrong with your van theres only one place to go to hear about problems.
#878 of 4276 Re: Chrysler Minivan Transmissions
Nov 07, 2001 (2:39 pm)
Since when did I say they had good transmissions? I was the one talking about how my friends have had problems with their transmissions.
But I've been one of the lucky ones, and I will continue to support Daimler-Chrysler. Other than my first Chrysler van, my 1996 and 2001 were and are mechanically perfect, with the 2001 also being quality perfect.
I'm not the only one who is in the niche that wants luxury and utility, because the LXi pre 1999 used to account for nearly 80% of the T&C sales. Now I'm not sure now what the figures are since with the demise of the Plymouth Voyager, Chrysler is now stacking rental lots with stripped base T&C's...something I DON'T agree with.
Anyway, until Honda comes out with an Acura van or Toyota ups its size and luxury content, I'm sticking with Chrysler. I've had good luck with them, and if you can believe, I LIKE the gizmos, gadgets, style, and utility.
That's great the some people think minivans should be modestly equipped with bad styling, but remember the days when SUV's were REAL trucks, and not luxury-like vehicles with such names as Mercedes, BMW, or Lexus gracing the hood?
For now, I'm going to take my automatic triple zone air over a folding magic seat, but maybe in a couple of years, Honda and Toyota will realize there are people like me who would be happy to buy from those brands if they added just a little more luxury. I'm guessing that day will eventually come, most likely in the new 2003 Sienna. Just a guess.
#879 of 4276 Chrysler Transmissions
Nov 07, 2001 (3:16 pm)
Based on what I was reading on other internet sites, especially the Allpar site, they stated that a large number of the transmission problems were the result of using the wrong fluid. Apparently the 4 speed transmissions are very sensitive to the ATF used and the wrong one will really damage the unit. 2000 model year and newer should only use ATF+4.