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Dodge Caravan, Dodge Grand Caravan, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Chrysler Town and Country, Van
#71 of 4276 Dodge Caravan ES $29K
Jan 22, 2000 (3:54 am)
The Way We Were?
Great movie title but a scary direction for American car manufacturers. Being Dad to four and saddled with a minivan as a family mover, I chose the Candy Apple Red Dodge Caravan ES in 1996 sticker'ing at 29 large. Quite the looker for a mini-van. This was to replace the 87 Ford Aerostar which had served us relatively well with 85,000 on the clock, and we'd now make the move into front wheel drive van-land for snow conquering.
Was that "Caravan" or "Aspen all over again". The first two stormy years of our relationship included three trips up town on the hook. For all the "1976 right reasons" brought to you at a 1996 price... Cooling fans in-op, Battery in-op, than the classic Water Pump at 42,000 miles 300 miles from home, and take note that these are only the tow truck assisted troubles with my three year old son enjoying the ride from high atop the tow truck cab with Billy-Bob and his home made lunch. Now the dealer goes for the full house reporting "dead spots" in my starter at just out of reach of the warranty period. This apparently a common occurrence. Being a spoiled Toyota owner my mind sees visions of unspoken customer service programs which soothe the troubled vehicle owner and foster a repeat consumer, but I was quickly shaken from my Toyota Land slumber by the cold God Bless American Auto manufacturer policy of "Maybe if more than 2% of the vehicles have problem". 2% of the Caravan, Town & Country, and Voyager market?? That's leave 49 states of customers who might return to the 35K, we'll get it right next time, counter. The service manager did see light at the end of the tunnel with policies now the Daimler headed up the Chrysler name..
Current undocumented features:
AIRBAG Light On always
Wipers like to cycle 2 to 6 times when shut off
CD Player Skips on high number tracks ( Second Unit )
Leaking Transmission Fluid from Radiator lines
Driver Side Sliding Door is rubbing Paint off external door jam
Daimler Chrysler seems to think they are loosing market share due to the lack of GEE WIZ features like automatic sliding doors, Rear hatch opening obstacle sensors, and more powerful engines. I don't think so. I think it's the same engineering that went into the Aspens of yesteryear, which Lee Iacocca spoke of in his book.
I would suggest not waiting for another model year for Chrysler to get it right. The types of problems most people have listed here are LOW TECH.
Batteries ( Been Around a While )
Cooling Fans ( Not exactly new )
Water Pumps ( Already said it )
CD Players ( My $250 Alpine works great in my
Take your $20K - $35K and try a manufacturer who does the engineering before they embarrass themselves! - My $.02
PS - Would LOVE TO HEAR FROM A CHRYSLER ENGINEER or Executive on this topic!!!
Jan 22, 2000 (6:12 am)
welcome to the club...
#73 of 4276 Why all the gloom???
Jan 23, 2000 (4:03 am)
chrysler may not have the most reliable vans on the market, but they do have some of the best looking, driving, and feature-filled automobliles out there for a sub 40 grand price tag. I love my 98 Grand Caravan SE that we've put 50k miles on in less than 2 years. We havent had any leaks or problems, and the origional battery lasted to 45k before it went dead. Even if my tranny went out tomorrow, I would still buy another chrysler van. Neither the Honda, Toyota, or Mazda have the great feel that the Caravan gives u when driving at 70 mph with six kids in the car down the freeway. I know I look good and feel good in my Caravan, and that's why I love it!
#74 of 4276 Toot Toot!
Jan 24, 2000 (2:03 am)
#75 of 4276 1993 ABS Brakes vibrate violently
Jan 24, 2000 (10:55 pm)
Does anyone have Anti-lock brakes on their 1990-1993 Town & Coulntry/Caravan? ON my T&C, the brakes vibrate violently if you press the pedal down while in park or when driving. I took it to a dealer and they swore it's supposed to do that. I just wanted to hear if anyone else has this brake system but it does not do this. Thanks!
Jan 24, 2000 (11:07 pm)
Define violently....ABS for that vintage vehicle will not pulse as quickly as they do today (the actuators keep getting better/ stronger/ faster....).
However, ABS will not pulsate unless the vehicle is in park. If the dealer told you that this is normal, give him his sign!!!!
Jan 24, 2000 (11:09 pm)
I said that backwards....
ABS will not pulsate IF the vehicle is in park. Only if you are moving and 1 or more wheel is locking up.
Jan 25, 2000 (3:14 pm)
The problem is that they vibrate even when you have it in park. All you have to do is press the pedal down and BZZZZZZZZ. I talked to the dealer again and I told him that if this was normal, wouldn't it e noted somewhere in the owners' manual since it's such a severe departure from what's normal? He said he feels it SHOULD be in there, but it's not. Get this: He called me again and said that he has a technical service bulletin that says it's supposed to vibrate even when not moving. Does ANYONE have a 1900-1993 chrysler minivan with ABS? ...and do the brakes vibtrate while in park? Thanks.
Jan 25, 2000 (3:55 pm)
Go to another dealer. Brakes should not pulse unless you are in an ABS-stop.
Jan 27, 2000 (9:30 pm)
Well, the dealer gave me the printout of the technical service bulletin. it says:
After every 2 to 5 brake applications you MAY hear the ABS pump motor running. This will occur whether the brake applications were normal braking or anti-lock braking. The sound of the pump motor may be accompanied by a slight vibration in the brake pedal under light brake application. These characteristics indicate the ABS is recharging itself. THIS IS NORMAL OPERATION OF THE ABS.
Isn't that weird??? Does anyone else have the vibration while you are in park like I do?