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Dodge Caravan, Dodge Grand Caravan, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Chrysler Town and Country, Van
#678 of 4276 1998 Grand Caravan ES
May 30, 2001 (7:07 am)
We have our 1998 Grand Caravan ES for almost 4 years now with 50K miles. We had our first problem with it just after the 36K warranty expired. It over heated and the radiator fan had to be replaced. And just recently when it reached 48K miles, the radiator is leaking and it had to be replaced. It's good that we have extended warranty. I would suggest to anyone buying Dodge Grand Caravan to get an extended warranty if you're planning to keep the it for more than 3 years.
#679 of 4276 97 Grand Caravan Engine Disaster
May 30, 2001 (4:25 pm)
Have a 3.3L with 57,000 miles. Engine makes loud ticking noice at idle only. Dealer says he hears problems both in lower end with a rod and in top end with valves. Bottom line: minimum 15-25 hours to tear engine down locate, & rebuild. He's prepping me for rebuilt Chrysler engine at $4,500. Since problems just seem to be beginning should I keep the car & do the work, even though I don't know what I'm up against or trade in. Have also been told that tranny is guaranteed to go on these before 100,000 miles. Thanks in advance.
#680 of 4276 3.3L engine problem
May 30, 2001 (7:50 pm)
Fred, I'd suggest a second opinion from the best independent mechanic you can find. In regards to the transmission, what measures have you taken to keep it healthy? One prior poster has recommended spectrographic fluid analysis, however his '96 tranny still failed at 65K but he knew it was not in normal operating condition and because of good maintenance records was covered by CC except for $250.
#681 of 4276 TRANSMISSION LEAK 96 VOYAGER 64k MILES
May 31, 2001 (3:37 am)
96 Voyager at 64k miles has transmission fluid leak, no other symptoms of transmission problems YET. Is Chrysler offering any type of assistances to fix transmission? E-mail back to mike2808aol.com also. Thanks
#682 of 4276 mrl859 & windows rattling
Jun 01, 2001 (10:32 pm)
i personally thought the squeak came from deep within the dashboard. the actual location was actually above -- i guess the sound bounced off the windshield -- who knows. however, there are "star screws" tightening the ceiling liner to the ceiling. one was loose. all i had to do was find a star screwdriver and pushed it back in. noise went away afterwards. i think you can get away with pushing it in with a pen or other pointy object. i don't recall actually having to screw it back in.
i started hearing windows rattling on the driver side now (towards the rear). my sister's '96 has a severe rattling problem in the same area.
i supposed this may be moot once the door flies off!
#683 of 4276 fgaston: Did you buy the vehicle NEW? We got rid of problem vehicles
Jun 02, 2001 (7:28 am)
If you were the first owner and the vehicle has had NO problems before this one, it may be worth repairing. If you got it used, you have NO IDEA of the abuse it received before you got it.
It took a few years to discover the best remedy for the annoyance of a problem vehicle. We kept the NEW 1972 Volvo for 3 years but had learned our lesson with it. We kept the NEW 1975 VW Rabbit for 18 months, the used 1977 VW Bus purchased January 1979 (with 20,000 miles) for 18 months, and the NEW 1980 Chevy Citation for 15 months.
We learned that a bad vehicle will start having problems within 1 week to 10 days and the problems just escalate. My sister-in-law inherited a 1986 Caravan that her father got at a fly-by-night used car lot. When it started having engine problems, I suggested she get rid of it as she did not know how badly it had been abused nor the real, actual mileage. She did NOT listen and had the engine rebuilt. The mechanic who rebuilt the engine said it had at least 187,000 miles and not the 87,000 indicated on odometer. It has never run properly even after rebuilding the 4 cyl engine. The money spent on overhauling the engine was wasted.
In 1991, my brother-in-law got a used 1990 Ford Taurus "Program Car" with just under 10,000 miles. When the transmission went out in 1997 at 130,000 miles, he said it was not worth the cost of transmission repair so he just gave it away. He got a used Nissan King Cab that has had zero problems. His wife (my sister) inherited our mother's 1979 Impala in 1996. When they got their NEW 2001 Odyssey EX last week, they gave the 79 Impala with 99,500 miles to their son-in-law who plans to drive it for a long time.
Our friend had a rear axle seal replaced the 2nd time under warranty on his 1999 Tracker (Suzuki Vitara clone)at 30,000 miles. I suggested he get rid of it. We got an e-mail yesterday that he did...traded it in on a 2001 Blazer.
When we got zero problem vehicles (after the Volvo, Rabbit, VW Bus, and Citation problems) we gave them to a daughter when we got our new vehicles. Good vehicles seem to run indefinitely with no problems. Bad vehicles will just keep having the same and new problems.
#684 of 4276 The Trany Thing
Jun 02, 2001 (2:50 pm)
Changing the fluid and clean/replace the filter is not doing a complete trany service. The dealer has it recomended at 12k miles, which is ok, BUT...unless the entire trany fulid is removed including the t-converter does any of the 12k service means anything,my dealer says at the 12k service they just drain the pan and add fluid and not completely pump out the t-converter. I'm on my 3rd (and last trany) for my 92 voyager with the 3 speed trans. I did a lot of bitchn' to the dealer(and Chrysler) about replacing the reman of only 37k miles for another reman.( I did get it for cost plus 10%. and free labor. Out the door for $1100.00) 'll never own another chrysler again!!!
#685 of 4276 Maybe people are better to NEVER have transmission serviced?
Jun 02, 2001 (8:13 pm)
My co-worker got a used 199? Grand Voyager when it had about 10,000 miles. He had over 110,000 and ZERO problems when I retired May 31, 1996. He had NEVER changed transmission fluid, NEVER had a tune-up, etc. The only maintenance he had was an Oil and Oil Filter change. Same with his wife's 1994 Cadillac Sedan de Ville he got NEW.
Question: Do the driving habits of the owner have a greater effect on vehicle reliability than does costly, un-necessary, too frequent maintenance procedures?
#686 of 4276 '96 Chrysler Town & Country transmission
Jun 03, 2001 (6:56 am)
In 1998 we bought the van with an extended warranty because it was used. That in itself has been one of the best purchases we made!
In 1999, we had to have the seals and gaskets in the transmission replaced because of leaking. Until now, we've not had any further transmission problems. Three weeks ago as I was coming home with my son, I turned on a street about a block and a half from my home and all of a sudden there were no gears. I had it towed to a nearby dealer who eventually ended up telling us that the warranty company was only going to cover the cost of the Torque Converter, the rest would be on us. Why? Because of something they called a pre existing condition. One of the clips on the core was broken. Two weeks and $1800 dollars later we have the van back and it runs great. The van is not driven hard - it goes to and from work (4.9 miles each way), soccer games, periodic camping trips and maybe a road trip once a year. It has 70,000 miles on it. Part of that includes a move from Ohio to Florida. The usual stuff.
My question I guess is how were we to know something was broken when we had no external indication that anything was wrong. There were no leaks. The information center above the steering column never gave a clue anything was wrong. Does DC offer any assistance? Has anybody else had problems.
#687 of 4276 viczoo1: Could you identify the name of warranty and place where the van was purchased?
Jun 03, 2001 (10:09 am)
If it was a Chrysler warranty, it should have been honored with no questions asked for the reasons you stated.
Looks like the party that issued the warranty is unethical, crooked, or liars. We have discovered that a warranty is only as good as the party that issues it. Examples:
#1. We bought a used 1977 VW Bus with 20,700 miles from a VW dealership in January 1979. It had a written 30 day or 1000 mile warranty. We drove it on a 220 mile round trip and had to refuel 3 times...only a dismal 11.1 MPG at 50 MPH. Took it back and the dealership would do NOTHING to fix it. That was our 5th VW and I will NEVER own another Volkswagen (JUNK in German) as long as I live.
#2. The 2nd gear in our 4 speed 1980 Chevy Citation would not stay engaged after the factory warranty expired. Took it to the closest Chevy dealership and gave them the facts. The Chevy dealership rebuilt the manual transmission and did NOT charge us anything.
Chevrolet provide excellent warranty service. Some Volkswagen dealers will do anything to avoid honoring their own written warranty. Does anyone wonder why the sale of Volkswagens is in the toilet?
NOTE to DaimlerChrysler: Honor your warranty and provide repair at NO COST the problem automatic transmissions that are caused by poor or cheap design.