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#3823 of 4276 A/C scream
Apr 05, 2006 (5:44 am)
I have a 1997 PLYMOUTH VOYAGER with 67,000 miles. When you turn the A/C on the A/C belt screams. If you leave the A/C on long enough the belt will break. You can stop the scream if you tighten the belt tensioner, but it will start again then the belt will break. The compresser has been changed, and the belt alignment was checked. The only thing I can think to do is replace the tensioner. PLEASE HELP this is my wifes van and she yells louder than the A/C!!
#3824 of 4276 Chrysler Town & Country Oil Pressure
Apr 05, 2006 (6:25 am)
I have a 1998 T & C with oil pressure problems. I have just converted to Mobile One 10w 30 from 10w 40 Havoline. The oil pressure light came on and stayed on until I reved the engine up to 1500 rpm. Above that it was off. I changed the sensor and also the pickup. It ran for 2 weeks without problems. Then it started again. I immediately shut down and waited 5 minutes. I then cranked up again without any problems. The van has 130,000 miles. There is no noticable problems with the engine, no clacking or other sounds. When I changed the sensor, I noticed the oil was very dark. It had only been in for two weeks. Do I have a sludge problem or a pump problem? Thanks for your help.
#3825 of 4276 Re: Is the transmission going to go out every 23,000 miles??? [ckmnac]
Apr 05, 2006 (7:14 am)
Just an update to a previous post.
Had the computer flashed and it "fixed" the transmission for a little over a month. It started acting up again and now we are going to need a rebuilt transmission put in. The first one was just patched but the guy felt it should have lasted a bit longer then 23,000 miles. Oh well. We are still driving it as it is our family vechile and the damage has been done so it isn't hurting anything. We need to save up a bit and get new tires since a broken belt in one isn't helping matters.
Just waiting on the estimate right now. I'm hoping that it is under $2000 and with this guy who knows?
#3826 of 4276 Re: Chrysler Town & Country Oil Pressure [jnovice]
Apr 05, 2006 (7:23 am)
A couple of thoughts...
1) Did this problem start before or after you switched to Mobil 1?
1a) If before, then the problem is probably unrelated.
1b) If after, it could be that the extra cleaning power of the Mobil 1 has striped so much crud from inside your engine that it has clogged your pickup screen (again). What did the pickup screen look like when you replaced it? Clogged or wide open?
2) Following along on the thought that your pickup screen is becoming clogged by sludge, and debris freed up by the Mobil 1, you might find that you have to pull the oil pan and pickup screen yet again and clean them out. After that, if you are committed to staying with Mobil 1, I'd suggest that you perform several oil changes separated by only a thousand miles or two. Why? Because the detergent properties of synthetic oils in general and Mobil 1 in particular are such that it WILL clean your engine up, regardless of whether that is a good thing or not (hence the fact that you noticed your oil was "very dark" when you changed the sensor). My other suggestion is to switch back to the Havoline, drive for a thousand miles or so (to allow the situation inside your engine to stabilize), and change it again staying with the Havoline for as long as you keep your T&C.
3) Another possibility (although I think this is a low probability due to your comment that said, "I immediately shut down and waited 5 minutes. I then cranked up again without any problems." which leads me to think that the screen had gotten clogged, and when you shut it down, the crud fell to the bottom of the pan --temporarily--): As engines age, the main and rod bearings start showing their miles by allowing too much oil to leak through. The typical symptom of this is that at idle, the oil pump isn't able to keep the flow high enough to keep the pressure above the minimums to keep the light off.
FWIW, I have a 1998 DGC with 110,000 (as of this morning) with the 3.8 liter mill (you probably have the same engine in either 3.3 or 3.8 guise), and it is also running on Mobil 1. The difference is that I've been using the Mobil 1 for the last 90,000 miles. If you would like to see just how clean that stuff makes the innards of your engine, take a look at a shot I posted in my "Caravan Stuff" photo album on Yahoo!
Hint: use the "Download" button to bring the full resolution picture down to your computer. The two valve cover/oil filler shots are really the same shot, with the oil filler detail simply cut from the larger view, so if you are bandwidth challenged, the detail shot is the one to use.
As a point of reference, that shot was taken 6,000 miles ago, at a point when the oil (pooled in the rocker arm and clearly still quite clean) had 4,000 miles on it. Even with my ~10,000 OCI schedule, you can see that the rocker arm and rocker shaft are still as clean as the day the engine was built.
#3827 of 4276 Re: 2005 Touring [fish8]
Apr 05, 2006 (7:58 am)
My wife and I own a '03 Grand Caravan SE with 33K on it and we have had power steering issues since approximately 18K. The power steering pump, reservoir, lines and rack have been replaced (the lines have been replaced twice).
The symptoms have been a groaning or grinding emanating from the steering at low speeds (such as maneuvering around a parking lot) along with a noticeable steering wheel shudder. The most recent service was performed in Feb. 2006. In late March, the issue occurred again this time in spectacular fashion culminating in stranding my family on the roadside for several hours and being without the van for 5 days now.
These vans have obvious transmission, steering and general quality control problems. I am thoroughly disgusted with Chrysler and will never again purchase a Daimler-Chrysler product.
If anyone else is having similar issues besides fish8 and me, please let me know, I'd like to hear from you
#3828 of 4276 Re: 2005 Touring [familyguy4]
Apr 06, 2006 (9:03 am)
I have a '01 Caravan and have been experiencing a steering groaning/shuddering symptom for a few months now. Just like you it's noticeable at low speeds. I took it to an independent mechanic who said it could be the steering rack or the pump. Since neither are leaking at this time, he suggested that I wait until the part in question breaks down and to change it at that time. I don't want to get stranded anytime soon, so can you tell what problem caused you to be stranded? My mechanic mentioned that even if the steering pump were to fail I would still be able to drive the van, albeit it would be harder to steer.
#3829 of 4276 Re: 2005 Touring [gino45]
Apr 06, 2006 (6:32 pm)
The issue that caused me to be stranded goes as follows. I'm editing for length On a steep grade the lower power steering line blew completely out of the power steering pump spewing power steering fluid all over the engine bay and exhaust which created a huge smoke plume. The pump was still turning and the reservoir was emptied of fluid in a matter of seconds. Without any fluid in the system, no way to keep it in and no way to change the hose on the roadside at 8:00pm on a Friday night, I had no choice but to use the 24 hr roadside assistance to tow the van to the nearest dealership and attempt to arrange for alternative transportation. Driving without fluid for even a short distance would have critically damaged the remaining components in the steering system and created a dangerous situation which could have resulted in the driver losing the ability to control the vehicle adequately. We were in a mountainous region and I didn't dare take a chance with the lives of my entire family and their friends.
Incidentally, the P/S pump and all the lines had been replaced previously under warranty due to grinding, shuddering, etc. The P/S pump failed at around 28K. All I can say is I have a
#3830 of 4276 Cost of rebuilt transmission??
Apr 07, 2006 (2:27 pm)
I'm a little confused right now. When we bought our van (1998 GC) the previous owners had a paper showing transmission work which cost them $1300. You guys all said that was way too little $$ for a rebuilt transmission.
I took the van on Wednesday for them to drive it and give me an estimate. It needs a transmission and the guy said we can't just do patchwork again because the same thing will happen all over again (transmission started acting up only 23,000 miles after the first work was done). This isn't the same shop the original work was done at and this guy has been completely straightforward about everything.
So today he calls and says he has the estimate and it is only $1442.46. Now I'm wondering if this is too cheap for a rebuilt transmission. I have the list he gave me and here is everything. Please tell me what exactly they are doing if you know. I want this transmission to last longer then 23,00 miles. Thanks.
604 Master Overhaul Kit
604 Up date kit
Overhaul 604 trans axle and
replace torque converter. One year
or 12,000 mile warranty
I am so clueless about all this transmission stuff. I also got an estimate from the dealership for $2613.18.
#3831 of 4276 Re: Cost of rebuilt transmission?? [ckmnac]
Apr 07, 2006 (3:46 pm)
Assuming that all of the hard internal components are still in good shape (i.e. the actual gearing and such), I suppose that your $1,442.46 is possible. Never having rebuilt one of these transmissions, anything I say must be discounted as, "just so much noise". That having been said, the questions I would have regarding this "Rebuild-it" approach (as opposed to the factory remanufactured $2,613 unit) are as follows:
1) Are the new kits and components that are being bought from the factory (i.e. MOPAR) or are they sourced through a third party? I ask because I've heard that non-MOPAR units are quite inferior.
2) I've heard that fairly specialized equipment is required to properly set one of these units up. What equipment does your shop have?
3) Does this rebuild bring the transmission up to the latest engineering build (i.e. model year 2000)? That coincidentally is the first and only year/build level that exists which allows our transmissions to safely run on ATF+4 (as opposed to the now apparently extinct ATF+3).
4) What price warranty? 12 month/12,000 mile for $1,442 (i.e. $0.12 per mile) or 36 month/36,000 mile for $2,613 (i.e. $0.0726 per mile). Said another way, is the extra $1,171 worth it to you for three times the warranty?
#3832 of 4276 '05 T&C recall
Apr 07, 2006 (5:37 pm)
Anybody able to tell me what a recall with F01 means? Wife says something in letter regarding a/c. I thought there was a recent recall for the windshield wiper motor. Any thoughts? Thanks.