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You are in the Chrysler/Plymouth Voyager, Dodge Caravan
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Dodge Caravan, Dodge Grand Caravan, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Chrysler Town and Country, Van
Jun 20, 2003 (3:22 pm)
My 2000 Voyager has been a most pleasant family vehicle. Even with the slightly underpowered 3.0 liter engine, the performance and amenities have given us a fine car for daily use, and a few sizeable road trips. We operate the car with respect, are never hard on it, and give it regular maintenance.
Suddenly, the "outer joint" has broken, requiring a replaced left axle. Also, after the tow-in, it was determined that the valve cover gaskets needed replacing, as well as two different belt tensioners.
The dealership service department was courteous, and subtracted a significant amount from the labor charge, so I have no gripe with them.
I do find it very unusual and disconcerting that these things would happen at 46,000 miles, particularly the jammed axle. I know that cars have problems, things happen, and no brand of car is perfect forever. It just seems ridiculously soon for these malfunctions to occur, and stands in stark contrast to my 1984 Chevy S-10 pickup which is approaching 200,000 miles, and has had nothing replaced but the brakes.
There is certainly a high number of Dodge/Plymouth minivans on the road, and maybe this is a somewhat isolated incident, but I can't decide if I should raise "a loud complaint" with Chrysler, or accept the odds of it happening to any late-model Chrysler product. What do you think?
#1864 of 4276 Many DC minivan owners are satisfied
Jun 23, 2003 (11:52 am)
Not many problems being reported here but CR does not think very highly of DC vehicles.
Since DC has been having financial woes and there is report of Daimler considering dumping the Chrysler part of DC, who would be a prospective buyer?
Would Toyota buy Chrysler from DC just to get hold of sufficient assembly capacity for the demand for the new 2004 Sienna and all the other "much in demand" Toyota vehicles?
DaimlerBenz made alot of vehicles sold around the world but Mercedes Benz has long held a reputation for requiring costly, frequent maintenance.
Jun 24, 2003 (12:04 pm)
I've got 200 warranty miles left to see if anyone knows if this "2100 rpm" drumming vibration noise is serious or if it can be fixed. I've got an '01 DC. The noise usually occurs at 45 mph when the tranny locks in, BUT it also happens occasionally at low speeds with the tranny still slipping. Dealer (bless his heart) has replaced a muffler, a tranny pump and a converter to no avail. My guess is its a vibration caused when the engine lugs a little because it doesn't have the hauling power it needs just then. It doesn't seem to happen when I goose it a little going through 45 mph. It's a minor thing I guess I can live with if it's not the beginning of a major transmission problem later on. Anybody help?
Jun 24, 2003 (12:25 pm)
Has the dealer been recording your complaints on the service records when you bring it in? If something does go wrong down the road, they'd be handy to show to DC that the problem arose during the warranty.
It would be a little extra clout when you ask DC to eat some of the repair bills if needed in the future.
#1867 of 4276 Chirrrring Noise when driving DC
Jun 25, 2003 (12:06 pm)
I have 1999 DC 61000 miles now.. I used here a chirring sound when i change gears like from Park to D and from D to Rev. But now it started happening more often even while driving also. The sound is like chhhrrring and last for about 2 sec.
Any ideas? or if anybody had similar prob?
#1868 of 4276 Re Chirrring
Jun 25, 2003 (3:04 pm)
My '99 GCS has had that noise since I can remember, especially when shifting into reverse. It lasts about 2 seconds. I haven't noticed it while driving. My van has 43,000 miles on it. The extended warranty goes to 50,000, or five years. I plan on turning it in at about 49,998, or five years less one day, whatever comes first.
#1869 of 4276 A little personal history
Jun 26, 2003 (6:38 am)
I have had a long codependant relationship with my 1996 Dodge/Chrysler that has been based on "what should have been" rather than what is. When this ends soon (as I have come to realize it must) I will never again enter a relationship with a Dodge/Chrylser.
At the same time, I have to remember what brought me to her in the first place. Those curves, that sleeky showroom sexiness. I mean, she was stacked with features that an average Joe like me could normally only dream about! And when we were alone together--man, how she handled. That little dreamboat could perform better than any car I'd ever been with.
But in the end you just couldn't depend on her! When you really needed her should would let you down, leave . I can't tell you how many times she left me hanging about all those bitter lonely mornings in the servic department waiting room. And she ruined just about every vacation we ever took!
I used to ask myself if it was me? Did I not service her enough? Was I somehow not worthy of her? Was it because we went to Jiffy Lube once or twice instead of the dealer?
But I gave her everything--oil changes every 3 K, fuel injector cleanings, tranny flushes every 12 k, but it was never enough for her. She always needed more--head gaskets, starters, computers, valve covers, and oh-my-god--brake jobs, brake jobs, brake jobs! I've worked myself to death and gone broke trying to please her.
I have finally come to realize that the problem is her and not me. Yes, I'm alone and on foot for now. But I have faith that soon I'll find another. Not any thing flashy--maybe a used Honda or Toyota--but something that I can take car of and that will take care of me.
Jun 26, 2003 (8:00 am)
Please dump it and get on with your life. Our '96 Caravan, having never had the transmission touched to date, having never had fuel injector cleanings and having the original head gaskets, starter, computer, valve covers, and brakes, still treats us well at about 67K miles. Other than the few minor recalls and the well known phantom wiper issue, fixed under warranty, the only major problem to date was the AC that went last year. (I do lovingly change the oil and filter myself every 3K miles, however)
You can switch to an Odyssey, but they haven't been trouble free either, check the Odyssey problems and transmission problems boards.
Maybe you spoiled it by too much loving care!
Jun 26, 2003 (8:21 am)
Thats it. I gave too much! I was an enabler!
#1872 of 4276 Transmission ; problems
Jun 27, 2003 (4:45 am)
To guy w/odd transmission noise. Our '96 PGV does the same thing - always has since we bought it four years ago. Always makes the most noise when initially going into reverse and then downshifting while driving. I'd say it's gotten a "little" more noticeable now at 106k miles but not much. I still hear many of the other D/C vehicles making that same sound so I don't get too worried.
To guy who's van let him down, sorry to hear that. Ours has 106k miles (about a week from 107k) and it gets heavy city and highway miles. In fact this last Tuesday I drove eight hours straight from MI to WI and then turned around 12 hours later and went back to MI. This included driving through 93 degree heat in downtown Chicago! I too only do oil changes, trans. changes every 30k and then whatever else our local mechanic says it needs (not much). Biggest expense was the head gasket at about 50k for $900 or so. After that though, not much. If my wife doesn't complain too loudly I plan on slapping some new tires on this thing this Winter and driving it until it pukes. (But odds are she's going to complain and I'll have to sell it to some kid who's going to do God-knows-what in the back seats of that silver bullet).
Have a great weekend,