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#1205 of 4276 Somebody please help!!
Mar 20, 2002 (2:09 pm)
As of today I have spent over $10k in repairs to my 1996 Dodge Grand Caravan SE. It has 64,000 miles. It has never been off road or in any kind of mishap or accident. Almost everything has had to be replaced or repaired, including the gas tank -all by one of the Washington DC areas largest dealerships. Do I have any recourse to anyone--is there a Dodge representative that I can contact? I need someone to at least tell me that this is not normal!
#1206 of 4276 2002 Grand Caravan cold air flow-thru
Mar 20, 2002 (6:55 pm)
I've just purchased a 2002 and have experienced a problem with cold (winter) air flowing
in/around the passenger's feet...it seems to come in under the dash where the glove-box is located. It's so cold that the vehicle is almost un-useable below 30F because the passenger
gets too cold. The dealer has looked at it 3 times and claims there's nothing they can do about it. Has anyone had a similar problem? btw this is my 4th Chrysler van...87,92,97,02 and I've had pretty good luck with them and NO power-train problems...
Mar 20, 2002 (9:10 pm)
Paul: My non-pro thought is that it is suspect to attribute plug problems of all 4 cylinders to a head gasket leak that one would expect to affect one or two cylinders identified by the compression check. Carbon on all plugs should be explained by a source problem common to all cylinders like obstructed air flow or an ignition ploblem common to all 4 cylinders. On the other hand, a leaking head gasket needs to be replaced.
James: Your $10,000 expenses must be some sort of extreme example of a lemon. Consumer Rprts has consistently shown the '96 to be somewhat more problematic than the '95 but I have had a '95 for 3 years and now have 80,000 miles and have had one unexpected breakdown with a water pump failure. I have replaced a battery that failed after a normal life and same for front brake pads. I am going to risk being guilty of blaming a victim and say that going to the "biggest" dealer is more likely to result in big bills rather than small ones. When I need car repair, I go to a two man shop, owner and assistant, where I get personalized problem analysis from a knowledgeable mechanic who cares about my problem. I recommend that the cord to the dealer be cut.
Pete: I would get a friends recommendation of a good body shop to trouble-shoot your leak.
#1208 of 4276 2002 Grand Caravan cold air flow-thru
Mar 21, 2002 (3:21 am)
I would try a different dealer. All the vents are run off vacumim and it sounds like either one of the doors aren't closing for one reason or another. Does sound like a job that could require complete removeal of the dash before it's over in order to properly find and replace the problem. As long as there are no holes or seams in that area that is letting cold air in through the body itself. Have you had it long enough to drive in a very heavy downpour where it would would have let water leak in? Just another thought. Unless he can prove all 02's do it than it can be fixed, one way or another.
#1209 of 4276 reply royallen
Mar 21, 2002 (5:33 pm)
Right on, the sooner you cut lose from the dealer the happier and wealthier you will be IMO. Example: $225 for front brake pad replacement by dealer in my area compared to about half that by independent using Raybestos pads. Even worse, many dealers have their own maintenance recommendations which are over and above what the manufacturer (that they ostensibly represent) recommends. Biggest rip IMO is the infamous engine flush. Not far behind is fuel injector service. One DC dealer in my area not only recommends unnecessary services but also recommends more frequent service intervals for the factory recommended services.
#1210 of 4276 reply royallen by pluto5
Mar 21, 2002 (6:08 pm)
Most dealers are out to make as much as they can at our expense. In the past couple years GM has gotten their oil life senser working very accuracely and now people are finding out that they don't need an oil change every 3000 miles as they were lead to believe. The senser with the computer computes speed, distance, temps, and someother things and counts down from 100% to 0. The dealers are crying major tears. Hopefully someday all cars will have it.
Mar 21, 2002 (6:40 pm)
what we really need are good oil filters. if we had those, we'd rarely need to change the oil because it wouldn't get so contaminated.
#1212 of 4276 reply emale
Mar 23, 2002 (5:31 am)
Paper filter should last six months so what's wrong with just changing oil and filter every 6 months as most manufacturers recommend?? Why obsess over the best oil change interval when dino oil and oem filters are designed to last 6 months as proven by tests of on-road driving, e.g CR test of NY taxicabs several years ago. Changing oil every three months is a waste of time and creates unnecessary polution.
#1213 of 4276 new 01 T/C LX AWD?
Mar 23, 2002 (8:58 am)
deciding to buy today. "new" with only 200 miles. $28K good price?
Mar 23, 2002 (9:01 am)
Not a bad idea to check the True Market Value on your way out the door. Look for the "Customized Appraisal" button too. Good luck.
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