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#1075 of 4276 1997 Dodge Caravan...
Feb 02, 2002 (9:30 pm)
The left side sliding door motor/lock went dead AGAIN!!! It's happened twice before when the van was still under warranty. The worse part is that the door cannot be locked manually!!!
Just too many problems with this van over the past 5+ years:
Left side sliding door
Transmission dead at 44,000 miles
New water pump at 47,000 miles
New brake pads every 6 to 8 months
This piece of junk is a money pit. Never again will we buy a chrysler vehicle.
#1076 of 4276 1997 Dodge Caravan--gmusic7
Feb 03, 2002 (6:15 am)
Big difference between yours and the new ones. you can have those kinds of problems with any vehicle. Check out Mr. so called reliable Honda Oddysey problems. I don't rely on Consumer Reports either. After following this Forum for tha last 5 years, one thing I have learned. When you buy a vehicle its going to be either a good one or a bad one. Sounds like you purchased a bad one. Maybe your luck will change the next time.--DCH
Feb 03, 2002 (3:48 pm)
Your luck will be alot better the next time around if you avoid anything produced by the original North America big three. Their favourite offering is mass produced garbage.
#1078 of 4276 gmusic7 by lexus_one
Feb 03, 2002 (4:22 pm)
Thats most likely true, but Lexus isn't the greatest car in the world either. How about the road test in if I remember Auto Weekly about the Lexus 400 or 450 that they kept having electrical problems with. They would park it at the curb only to come back with the windows down, sunroof open pouring down rain, and many other problems that the dealer couldn't fix. Since at the time my buddy just bought a Lexus I made sure I made copies of the article and for about a month me and a few other guys who work with him kept hiding them all over. To be fair I think the Lexus in the best vehicle out there for most cases, but they aren't perfect either.
#1079 of 4276 Our experience is VASTLY different from lexus-one
Feb 03, 2002 (6:19 pm)
Vehicles made by GM, Ford, and DaimlerChrysler
(we never got one until after Daimler purchased Chrysler Corp) have been reliable and dependable. I did get a few with problems with Big 3 but ALL foreign labels gave numerous problems.
I have purchased the following NEW vehicles: 63 Impala, 65 Buick, 67 Impala, 71 Vega, 71 VW Super Beetle, 72 Volvo, 75 VW Rabbit, 76 Chevy Nova (GM car....not Corolla clone), 78 Impala, 80 Impala, 80 Citation, 81 Chevy C-10 Pickup, 87 Chevy R-10 pickup, 91 Astro CL, 99 GC SE, and now a 2002 T&C eL.
All Impalas, Chevy Pickups, Astro, Buick, Vega, Nova were reliable with very few problems. The 80 Citation had numerous oil leaks and loose bolts and when the Manual Transmission had to be rebuilt (under warranty), we traded it off for the 81 Chevy Pickup.
All Volkswagens and the Volvo gave many problems and in my opinion they are JUNK in German and Swedish languages.
Our 99 GC SE had ZERO problems until 35,002 miles when it had a coolant leak that was fixed promptly the next day under warranty. It was such a fine vehicle, our daughter and son-in-law bought it from the dealer where we got our new 2002 T&C eL at the time we traded.
We got a used 1976 Ford Fairmont for our daughter in 1991 that was a very reliable, cheap to operate vehicle.
Toyota and its higher priced clone Lexus are very good, reliable vehicles....but too expensive to be a sensible purchase unless a person has more money than common sense.
#1080 of 4276 Well then....
Feb 03, 2002 (9:05 pm)
Call me guilty for having more money than common sense, for I've owned three Toyota's (Cressida, Avalon, Avalon) and one Lexus LS400 (company car) in my lifetime. At least I didn't have to pay for the LS400. Otherwise, that would have qulaified as an unwise purchase given the astromical price tag.
#1081 of 4276 Different Experience
Feb 03, 2002 (10:21 pm)
We've had two American made vehicles, both Chrysler minivans, and have driven a total of over 100k miles with both vehicles combined. No problems whatsoever. American garbage? I don't think so.
The notion of American automakers building garbage is quickly becomming a myth. Just look at Consumer Reports and all the other automotive authorities out there if you don't believe me. I'd feel much better now about buying a Chrysler van than I would have in 96 or earlier.
As far as I'm concerned, I'll never purchase a Japanese vehicle from now on. Besides from just liking the design of American cars better, I didn't like how so few Japanese companies contributed to the 9/11 funds. Look at it this way, Chryslers in huge financial trouble but they still contributed 10k in hard cash to support families of 9/11. That really says something. What about Honda? Nada.
That tells me they are after making money more than anything else. That's just how I feel about it...
Feb 03, 2002 (10:25 pm)
Heh, are you referring to that scam email that's going around about automakers' contributions to the WTC disaster? That's totally bogus.
One source puts Honda's contribution at 1.4 million and counting.
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Feb 04, 2002 (1:12 am)
carleton1 and 4adodge,
before you get your knickers in a twist, i suggest you check out some folk's history list (click on their townhall name). it says alot about their authenticity or lack thereof...
for instance, why would a guy who claims to own an '02 lexus only post in chrysler topics...?
Feb 04, 2002 (1:47 am)
I know how much you "editors" and "reviewers" here at edmunds.com love Honda but constantly trash DC and their products. I'll be real and take the word of that website over the "bogus" email that has been sent back and forth across the internet. But either way, Chrysler donated the most hard cash out of any other car company that I have seen.
It's simple, just do the math. 10 million dolars from a company which is currently not doing so well finacially versus a company, like Honda, who contributes 1.4 million but its doing very strong money-wise. I think that really says something...