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Dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler Minivan Problems & Solutions - READ ONLY
Last post on Oct 23, 2006 at 2:11 AM
You are in the Chrysler/Plymouth Voyager, Dodge Caravan
What is this discussion about?
Dodge Caravan, Dodge Grand Caravan, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Chrysler Town and Country, Van
#1022 of 4276 Label Me A Sucket, Too!
Jan 09, 2002 (2:22 pm)
I think both dmathews and brucevr should stop making these rediculous generalizations of DC products. Honda is one of the world's best and most reliable car manufactureres, there is no doubt about that in my mind. But, has the Honda Odyssey had more problems than what is typical for a Honda product? Yes. If you don't believe me, go read of the problems here at Troll Hall or simply look at Consumer Reports.
Secondly, I don't think the Odyssey is an unreliable car. In fact, despite all of the problems they have had, i would still choose an Odyssey over a DC minivan if reliability was the ONLY factor involved in buying a minivan. But everyone looks for different features in their cars, especially mininvans, and the Honda lacks in some areas that are obviously very important to many people.
What areas could those be? How about comfort, convienience, and luxury. Just sit inside of a new 2001 or 2002 Town & Country Limited and you will get my point. After sitting in a Town & Country the Odyssey interior looks bland and spartan. Features such as heated leather seats with memory, leather/suede interior, power doors and hatch with obstacle detection system, rear split bench seating, powered center console, overhead trip computer, tri zone climate control, more than decent sound system, cd changer, tire pressure monitor, fog lamps, all wheel drive, heated auto mirrors and windshield, and ajustable petals are very important to many customers.
Oh, and I dare not forget one of the most BASIC comfort features offered on ANY car that the Odyssey lacks...PADDED ARMREST. Yes, that's right. PADDED ARMREST. I mean common, I think it's pretty cheap for ANY car maker to put hard plastic armrests on the doors instead of something of a higher and more comfortable quality. Thats just plain CHEAP.
After all, it is true that Chrysler has essentially created a segment within a segment with the Town & Country. No other minivan currently on the market offers these types of features with the luxury content of the Chrysler.
All Chryslers are junk? You Honda fans wish as it would be perfect to keep telling yourself that to keep yourself driving an Odyssey. The old excuse of not buying a Chrysler because it will fall apart is getting old, fast. We have owned two Chrysler minivans, one of which went to 70k miles without any problems. Many Honda owners haven't even driven their vans past 50k. We also have a 2001 PT Cruiser which already has 12k miles and also hasn't had any problems.
Bottom line, the Odyssey isn't for everyone. And that is quite obvious by looking at the sales of DC minivans. The Town & Country alone outsells almost every other van on the market, including the Odyssey. If you want luxury, comfort, and convienence the Town & Country is hard, if not impossible, to beat.
#1026 of 4276 Now I remember why I left Edmunds boards
Jan 09, 2002 (6:10 pm)
for several months....lots of grandstanding and very little information. This topic is supposed to be about problems experienced by DC owner so that they can more effectively deal with issues that arise. If you own a Honda or Toyota, go to your own boards and leave this one alone.
#1027 of 4276 Well stated indydriver
Jan 09, 2002 (6:42 pm)
Apparently there are not enough nice features of other minivans for their owners to be happy unless they troll in DC forums to bash DC that continues to build the most satisfying minivans.
Maybe DC minivans had problems in the past. However, any one who reads in all Town Hall Forums will realize the current DC minivans do not have as many owner reported problems as most other brands.
I am disappointed that the Hosts do not delete the posts in DC minivan forums made by the professional Trolls who get thrills from posting old data about old DC minivans.
When my 99 GC SE had coolant leak, that fact was reported as was the fact the dealer fixed the problem by replacing both head gaskets the next day under warranty with no hassle. If my minivan had been made by another manufacturer, the head gasket replacement would have been called "routine maintenance".
#1028 of 4276 Re: Carlton Routine Maintenance
Jan 09, 2002 (8:52 pm)
. If my minivan had been made by another manufacturer, the head gasket replacement would have been called "routine maintenance".
You bring up a good point, I worked at a multi car
franchise and many families owned a foreign and a domestic vehicle. The service mgr. told me when they brought in their domestic car with a problem they would be very upset and carry on, but if they had a problem with their foreign vehicle it was considered a fluke in their minds and they were very low key. It's hard to figure out.
#1031 of 4276 Well, finally got the '90 back today......
Jan 11, 2002 (6:20 pm)
and it seems to run good. Apparently the first re-manufactured trans they put in didn't work right so they ordered up a second one from Chrysler and did it over! They asked for permission to replace the rear main seal for $85 while they were in there...why not? Also had them drop a new set of plugs in to sharpen up the cold starts. I asked for and got a 10% discount off the bill (I'm finding that most dealerships will do this if you ask nicely on bills over $400 and act like they're earning your return business). Total bill....$2,020. Blue book.....$1250 in good condition, which this one ain't. Oh well, four months and it will be less than a new truck payment.