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960 messages, Last post on Nov 09, 2009 at 5:31 AM
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Replying to: sebring95 (Oct 06, 2008 9:20 am) |
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Just purchased a 2006 Odyssey Touring DVD + NAV 2 days ago. We tested all the bells and whistles - amazed at what these cars can do now. At any rate, we have been driving it for 2 days and the NAVI was dog slow. The dealer told us he had to replace the battery recently and so he attributed it everything loading back in. But this thing was acting like a 386mHz processor with 64MB of RAM. It was just plain sluggish. I am here to tell you that I found the solution to my problem and I hope it helps others out there as a POSSIBLE cause to your issues. Symptoms : 1. NAVI system took almost a full 2 minutes to boot and sitting on the Disclaimer screen with no OK button. 2. After starting the car and putting it in Reverse, the Backup camera did not come on and wouldn't come on even when you sat there for 2 minutes. 3. Once the backup camera finally did come on, it would stay on for a good 30 seconds while in Drive. You could see the road behind you. 4. Voice activation commands were spotty at best. Radio On would work but not Radio Off. Could never get Climate Control commands to work. 5. The entire system would just lockup completely for minutes with none of the buttons working. Solution : I have been pouring over this forum and other forums looking to see if anyone had my same problem. I couldn't find a single thread that had all my problems or one that offered an exact solution. However, I tried all the tricks that people suggested and it gave me some insight into how this system works. I went into the Diagnostics menu (Map/Guide + Cancel + Menu) and did a full diagnostics. Everything was reported to be working fine which baffled me. Mic was ok and registering. It picked up my voice very clearly. I even went as far as clearing the SRAM??? but that didn't do anything except make me re-enter the PIN to the system. Then I read a post from someone who suggested "Downloading" the DVD again. Rather it was for another solution but it gave me the idea to at least try it. So after you get to the Diagnostics menu I think you go to Version. When you get to that screen there is a "DownLoad" button. I tried that and it took forever to change screens (my first hint). Once it did the screen went blank and said something like "Downloading software....". Shortly thereafter I got a message to check my disc (my second hint) and the download failed. I did what I was told and checked the disc. I searched the forums and found out how to do this. Go under the driver's seat, hit the glowing button to open the panel. Once that is open, press the eject button on the NAVI DVD player. The disc popped out and I inspected it. And there it was.....a 2 inch wide scuff mark from the center to the edge of the DVD. It looked like someone dragged the DVD on something, but only on that one side. This made sense to me but not completely. I was onto something! How could I eliminate the DVD from this equation and see if it makes a difference? The ultimate answer is to get a new DVD, but I didn't have one. So I turned the car off and turned it back on without the DVD in the drive. As expected I got an error message on my screen about not finding a DVD or the door was open. How could I bypass this? Did any of the buttons work and could I still use Voice Activation? I pressed the Voice Activation button and nothing! Dang! Then I tried to see if I could change the screen display. Sure enough I pressed the Audio button and the radio display came on. Cool! I then tried the Voice Activation button again and it worked! I proceeded to try the Voice Commands again. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WORKED!! I worked the Climate Controls, the Radio, the Menus...everything. It was beautiful! Oooh, but would this fix the backup camera? I did that all last night and decided to go to bed. This morning I turned the key on and popped out the DVD that I put back in last night. I started the car and put it in reverse immediately. The BACKUP CAMERA worked instantly. I put it into Drive and it WENT OFF IMMEDIATELY! Conclusion : With the Navigation System "disabled" the system is working flawlessly. It seems that my bad disc is really stressing the system and preventing things to work in a timely manner and its my opinion that these things are "timing out". Its like the CPU is maxed out and it just can't function. I have a new DVD on order and I don't know how everything will react. Part of me doesn't know if my system will slow down a little once I get the DVD. The Navigation System is huge and takes a lot of resources to run. However, I think I found the problem and I am elated to know that my system is going to be OK. I hope this helps someone but at the same time, please correct me if any of my statements are incorrect. I am new to the Honda Navigation family and my statements are merely assumptions based on my observations. Once I get my new DVD, I will update this post to let everyone know how it turned out! |
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Replying to: 2006odyowner (Oct 17, 2008 6:48 am)
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Replying to: eurimports (Oct 18, 2008 3:23 pm) So I took it to the dealer the same day as my post to have them give their assessment. Before they even looked at it, I told them everything I had done and some of the conclusions I arrived at. The tech listened to me partially and said they would look at it. He did agree a scratched disc like that would cause problems. Anyways they had it for 2 hours. Apparently they were on with the TechLine at Honda the whole time. Honda informed my dealer that this is a known issue with the Navigation system. The remedy is a software patch...not a map update but one for the Navigation software. They told me it would take 2 weeks for them to receive it and they would call me when it was in. The whole process takes about 45 minutes and alleviates the problems I am experiencing. So I have to watch for them to get the CD and bring it back in. Armed with that information I was kind of bummed to know that even a map update wouldn't fix my issue. However, I thought I would still give it a shot. I received the new disc and popped it in my NAV DVD player. It did all the normal stuff downloading the necessary updates. It took about 15 minutes. I was really hoping this would fix it and IT DID!! All of my problems are gone! The backup camera works flawlessly and all the voice commands (including Navigation) work great. So for me, my problem was a scratched DVD. I would recommend making a backup copy of your disc because if it gets damaged, the whole system seems to go downhill.
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Replying to: 2006odyowner (Oct 20, 2008 11:21 am) First, however, I'll clean the laser. I noticed that my dvd had a film on the data side when I checked it. (No other scratches or scuff marks.) It looked much better once it was cleaned. Since the data side faces down and it was dirty I can only imagine how dirty the laser must be since it faces up. Here's hoping for good results. |
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Replying to: 2006odyowner (Oct 20, 2008 11:21 am) |
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For a limited time the 2008 update (2009 Model Year) will be offered at a discounted price of $149. (offer valid through 3/15/2009. Subject to change.). This is for Version 4.73 WHITE DVD (USA South DVD). https://store.alpine-usa.com/Hondadvdsales/naviorder.php Note: Fulfillment is handled by Alpine Electronics of America, Inc. I have a 2007 and again I don't need to update since this new version doesn't apply to my area including business and travel purposes. The 4.73 update WHITE DVD (USA South DVD) includes points of interest (POI) and map coverage. US map coverage was expanded to include the following areas: Arizona Yuma California Central Valley - including Fresno, Merced, Modesto and Stockton Humboldt Mammoth Lakes Florida Panama City Hawaii (all cities for the following islands) Hawaii Honolulu Kauai Lanai Maui Molokai Illinois Carbondale Galesburg Urbana-Danville Indiana Bloomington Muncie Iowa Waterloo-Cedar Falls Mississippi Memphis Tupelo Montana Missoula New Hampshire Lebanon New Mexico Las Cruces Ohio Lima Springfield Pennsylvania Southwest Pennsylvania – including Pittsburgh and Washington County Texas Amarillo Beaumont Nacogdoches-Lufkin Texarkana Wichita Falls Utah St. George Vermount Rutland Virginia Emporia Staunton - Waynesboro - Harrisonburg Wisconsin Eau Claire La Crosse Canada Detailed Coverage Areas NOTE: The city names** are not included in the USA South DVD. To obtain coverage for those cities**, you may purchase the Canada DVD. DVDs are not available at your dealer. ALBERTA Beaumont** Calmar** Devon** Fort Saskatchewan** Leduc** Spruce Grove** St Albert** Stony Plain** Strathcona County** Squamish-Lillooet Squamish Whistler Thompson Nicola Kamloops** Central Okanagan Kelowna** Peachland** Okanagan - Similkameen Penticton** Summerland** Frontenanc Frontenac Islands Gatineau Gatineau Muskoka Bracebridge Georgian Bay Gravenhurst Huntsville Lake of Bays Muskoka Lakes Middesex London Ottawa Ottawa Perth Stratford Simcoe Adjala-Tosorontio Barrie Clearview Collingwood Essa Innisfil Midland New Tecumseth Orillia Oro-Medonte Penetanguishene Ramara Severn Springwater Tay Tiny Wasaga Beach Quebec Montreal-Laurentians La Riviere-du-Nord Prévost** St-Colomban** St-Hippolyte** St-Jérôme** Ste-Sophie** Les Laurentides Amherst Arundel Barkmere Brébeuf Huberdeau La Conception La Minerve Labelle Lac-Supérieur Lantier Mont-Tremblant Montcalm St-Faustin – Lac-Carré Ste-Agathe-des-Monts Ste-Lucie-des-Laurentides Val-David Val-des-Lacs Val-Morin Les Pays-d’en-Haut Lac-des-Seize-Îles** Morin-Heights** Piedmont** St-Adolphe-d’Howard** St-Sauveur** Ste-Adele** Ste-Anne-des-Lacs** Ste-Marguerite-Estérel** Wentworth-Nord** Mirabel Mirabel** Quebec La Cote-de-Beaupre Beaupre Boischatel Chateau-Richer L’Ange-Gardien St-Ferreol-les-Neiges St-Joachim St - Louis - de - Gonzague - du - Cap - Tourmente Ste-Anne-de-Beaupre La Jacques-Cartier Fossambault-sur-le-Lac Lac-Beauport Lac-Delage Lac-St-Joseph Ste-Brigitte-de-Laval Ste-Catherine-de-la-Jacques-Cartier Shannon L’Ile-D’Orleans St-Francois St-Jean St-Laurent-de-L’Ile-d’Oreleans St-Pierre-de-L’Ile-d’Orleans Ste-Famille Ste-Petronille Levis Levis Quebec Québec**
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I have read through hundreds of messages here and haven't found a solution to my problem. I can cope with the crazy routing, POI problems, giving you a restaurant 1200 miles away. But what really burn my shorts is that one second its fine then the next it is wondering off like its got Alzheimers (no offense intended). Seems like when I make a turn of even a slight curve in the road, the thing just goes straight. The north arrow goes nuts, and it keeps getting further away from my location. I have done the "location correction" thing numerous times and it goes right back to wondering. Is there a fix for this? Seems silly to have to take my Garmin with me.
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Replying to: pops11 (Dec 26, 2008 7:12 pm) Guaranteed Honda is not going to do anything other than offer to "reiniitialize" your system and refer you to Alpine for an update disc which will not help your situation. I really like the Odyssey but it is going to be my last Honda unless Honda Corporate Headquarters gets off its butt and does something. I happen to have the extended warranty so I will be around a while, but if they do not make this thing work as good as my Cobra, Honda will very likely get the van back under Kentucky's lemon law at some poiint. I know you said you did not like hte idea of carrying your Garmin with you but, my friend, that is about the best option you have. I rely heavily on my Cobra. I do not rely on Honda/Alpine except for poor customer service, no replies, and equipment that does not work. Honda really got pissed at me when I told them that Honda/Alpine should have bought their technology from Cobra before they stuck the unit into vehicles. I don't go the update crap. If everybody else works perfectly, why does not Honda/Alpine? Good luck!! |
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I occasionally get the following error message on my navigation screen "DVD DISC READING ERROR CONSULT YOUR DEALER" after which the navigation system stops functioning. If I turn the car off and start it again, then it resumes working. Does anyone know of any way to reset or restart the navigation without restarting the vehicle? I'm pretty sure I managed to press some sort of button sequence once to do this, but can't seem to do it again. So if anyone knows of any magical reset button sequence, please let me know. Thank you!
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