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Re: Purchase Navigation Option? [mgroomer] by sandrakely
Oct 02, 2008 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: mgroomer (Aug 07, 2008 7:40 pm)

Not sure if you bought you van yet. Depending on the model you buy the nav system will be standard. I just bought a 2008 Touring. I love 99.9% of it. I enjoy the voice commands and use them regularly. I think it just takes some getting used to. Also, the touring model is the only one with the auto lift hatch, which was the only thing on my must have list. You don't have the get the run flat tires on the touring model. The blue tooth is great. My son loves talking to his grandparents while we are on the road.
 
My one complaint and I'm trying to figure this out with Honda is the GPS. Granted it has nice features, but can't find a lot of pretty big things by name. For example it can't find a CostCo, HomeDepot, Lowes and many others in the county I live in.
 
The dealer looked at the 2009 model and found that the nav had the same problem. My $200 Garmin never failed me, but my $2,000 nav system makes me nervous every time I have to use it.
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Re: 2008 Odyssey Navigation [sebring95] by sandrakely
Oct 02, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: sebring95 (Jun 16, 2008 4:52 am)

I just bought a 2008 Touring model. It took nealy four months to get the dealer to really see the problem. The dealer then changed my disc twice. Then they went to a 2009 model and found that the nav system had the same problem. It can't find Home Deport and other major places in the county that I live in.
 
The dealer acted really surprised by this. I'm waiting now to hear from a Honda rep. The dealer has told me that the more people complain to Honda the better chance we all have of getting this fixed.
 
When I get some contact information I'll be sure to post it.
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Re: 2008 Odyssey Navigation [sandrakely] by sebring95
Oct 03, 2008 (4:42 am)
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Replying to: sandrakely (Oct 02, 2008 12:02 pm)

The OEM system just doesn't have the POI's of many aftermarket systems. I'm still running my '05 disc because after playing with the '08 model at the dealership, it was still lacking many of the POI's I was using as a base. When a POI has been there for ten years and isn't in the '05 disc...or the '08 disc....I'm not overly conident it's every going to show up. I also noticed on the '08 disc, it's lacking a 4-lane highway near us that was built back in 2003. I could somewhat understand this in 2005...but going on six years now?? No reason to spend the $250+ to upgrade discs when you're not gaining much. We still use it, but the Garmin does a far better job at everything but looking pretty.
 
FWIW, the 2009 EX-L will have the powe liftgate as a stand alone option. Of course now that you can get non-PAX and 8-passenger seating on the Touring, I'd probably still pony up even with the overpriced NAV. There are still some very basic features you have to jump up to the touing to get (auto headlamps, MID to name a couple).
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Re: Problems with my 2005 Odyssey navigation [nine0bison] by crazyelmo
Oct 03, 2008 (5:39 am)
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Replying to: nine0bison (Feb 23, 2008 5:39 pm)

Did you ever find a solution to your problem? Recently my wife's 2005 Odyssey Nav has been having the problems you mention plus screen freezes and periods of unresponsiveness. It seems to "get lost" at times - as though it's disconnected from all satellite contact - and is unable to calculate or complete navigation to certain locations.
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Re: 2008 Odyssey Navigation [sandrakely] by debchuck
Oct 03, 2008 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: sandrakely (Oct 02, 2008 12:02 pm)

Good luck getting anyone at Honda national offices to even listen to youl. I have a 2007 Ody EXL with navigation that I complained about from the very first day we owned the van. Jesse in Honda national says it's normal. The Honda dealer in Kingsport, TN, says it's functioning normally.
 
Yet, the thing cannot find my house!!!!! I have a QVC handheld Cobra model that will not only find my house but offer change and anything else I want. Honda makes a good vehicle, but a piss-poor navigation system. I do not trust it. Rarely use it. I carry my Cobra for accuracy -- no matter what Honda says.
 
In short, I've owned Honda cars in the past and love the Ody, but this is my LAST Honda because of the nav system being so shoddy and Honda's customer service being worse than shoddy. They won't dare send a survey to me!! The Honda system looks great. It just doesn't work in very many places. I have had it working in Louisville, KY, at the airport, but by golly if a human cannot find the airport by looking at the planes, we ought not be there anyhow.
 
The dears are surprised. Sure, they don't want to get involved. My dealer tried to tell me the nav system needed "reinitialized" so he kept it almost an entire day to do that little trick. No matter how educated he sounded, the nav system still does not function properly. A letter to Navtech got me nothing. Four or five letters to Jesse at Honda national customer service got me nothing.
 
So, the next time I buy a new vehicle -- Honda will get nothing, and I will tell everybody who will listen what my opinion is of Honda's handling of this deal. They sold the vehicle. Now, they want nothing to do with us.
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Re: 06 Odyssey Nav asking for pin [perki] by spacecadet0
Oct 04, 2008 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: perki (Sep 25, 2008 4:59 pm)

I found the pin for the NAV and the audio system in my 07 Ody on the inside of the glove compartment, the upper one. Try it. But then I bought mine used from the dealer, so the original owner could have put it there. I never got the original pin papers from the original owner. Hope that helps.
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Honda Odyssey GPS - not useable by roffer98
Oct 06, 2008 (5:37 am)
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I have the 2008 Honday Odyssey Touring edition and although I like the car the GPS system is bad enough that it is not really useable. When we did use it I would get a kick out watching what happens when we are on a route and go into a gas station. When you come back out onto the same road quite often the unit recalculates a completely different route and the change in distance can be as great as 30 extra minutes. After following it several times and ending up going way out of our way we just stopped using it.
 
Don't know why they had Alpine OEM this unit; they must have chosen it mainly for it's ability to hide a 6-disc CD player behind the screen. Too bad they don't just re-write the software. The rest of the car is great though, however at $2k for a dealer installed GPS unit that is a pretty big oversight on Honda's part.
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Re: Honda Odyssey GPS - not useable [roffer98] by sebring95
Oct 06, 2008 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: roffer98 (Oct 06, 2008 5:37 am)

I'm certainly no fan of the OEM GPS and can name a good number of faults, however it really sounds as if yours has a problem that should be addressed. Duplicating for a dealer might be impossible, but it would be worth complaining and see if there are any TSB's out for it. I've never had that happen, most of my complaints are directly related to a lack of POI's, missing roads, routing. But to just change routes along the way sounds buggy.
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Re: Honda Odyssey GPS - not useable [sebring95] by loncray
Oct 07, 2008 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: sebring95 (Oct 06, 2008 9:20 am)

Maybe I just got lucky or maybe I just don't expect too much from my Navi, but I've never had those problems with the Navi in my wife's Odyssey (2007 I think). There are certainly roads not in the database, but that's to be expected when they're still building them now. I've never had it change routes like you mention, only when I take a different route than Navi recommended. And Navi saved my butt this summer on a trip to Cleveland to see the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame - the ramp from the highway to our hotel was being resurfaced and Navi put together a great alternate route instantly - we never would've found it without Navi.
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2006 Ody NAVI - Very Slooooooooooow (Possible Solution) by 2006odyowner
Oct 17, 2008 (6:48 am)
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Just purchased a 2006 Odyssey Touring DVD + NAV 2 days ago. We tested all the bells and whistles - amazed at what these cars can do now. At any rate, we have been driving it for 2 days and the NAVI was dog slow. The dealer told us he had to replace the battery recently and so he attributed it everything loading back in. But this thing was acting like a 386mHz processor with 64MB of RAM. It was just plain sluggish.
 
I am here to tell you that I found the solution to my problem and I hope it helps others out there as a POSSIBLE cause to your issues.
 
Symptoms :
 
1. NAVI system took almost a full 2 minutes to boot and sitting on the Disclaimer screen with no OK button.
 
2. After starting the car and putting it in Reverse, the Backup camera did not come on and wouldn't come on even when you sat there for 2 minutes.
 
3. Once the backup camera finally did come on, it would stay on for a good 30 seconds while in Drive. You could see the road behind you.
 
4. Voice activation commands were spotty at best. Radio On would work but not Radio Off. Could never get Climate Control commands to work.
 
5. The entire system would just lockup completely for minutes with none of the buttons working.
 
Solution :
 
I have been pouring over this forum and other forums looking to see if anyone had my same problem. I couldn't find a single thread that had all my problems or one that offered an exact solution. However, I tried all the tricks that people suggested and it gave me some insight into how this system works.
 
I went into the Diagnostics menu (Map/Guide + Cancel + Menu) and did a full diagnostics. Everything was reported to be working fine which baffled me. Mic was ok and registering. It picked up my voice very clearly. I even went as far as clearing the SRAM??? but that didn't do anything except make me re-enter the PIN to the system.
 
Then I read a post from someone who suggested "Downloading" the DVD again. Rather it was for another solution but it gave me the idea to at least try it. So after you get to the Diagnostics menu I think you go to Version. When you get to that screen there is a "DownLoad" button. I tried that and it took forever to change screens (my first hint). Once it did the screen went blank and said something like "Downloading software....". Shortly thereafter I got a message to check my disc (my second hint) and the download failed.
 
I did what I was told and checked the disc. I searched the forums and found out how to do this. Go under the driver's seat, hit the glowing button to open the panel. Once that is open, press the eject button on the NAVI DVD player. The disc popped out and I inspected it. And there it was.....a 2 inch wide scuff mark from the center to the edge of the DVD. It looked like someone dragged the DVD on something, but only on that one side. This made sense to me but not completely. I was onto something!
 
How could I eliminate the DVD from this equation and see if it makes a difference? The ultimate answer is to get a new DVD, but I didn't have one. So I turned the car off and turned it back on without the DVD in the drive. As expected I got an error message on my screen about not finding a DVD or the door was open. How could I bypass this? Did any of the buttons work and could I still use Voice Activation?
 
I pressed the Voice Activation button and nothing! Dang! Then I tried to see if I could change the screen display. Sure enough I pressed the Audio button and the radio display came on. Cool! I then tried the Voice Activation button again and it worked! I proceeded to try the Voice Commands again. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WORKED!! I worked the Climate Controls, the Radio, the Menus...everything. It was beautiful!
 
Oooh, but would this fix the backup camera? I did that all last night and decided to go to bed. This morning I turned the key on and popped out the DVD that I put back in last night. I started the car and put it in reverse immediately. The BACKUP CAMERA worked instantly. I put it into Drive and it WENT OFF IMMEDIATELY!
 
Conclusion :
 
With the Navigation System "disabled" the system is working flawlessly. It seems that my bad disc is really stressing the system and preventing things to work in a timely manner and its my opinion that these things are "timing out". Its like the CPU is maxed out and it just can't function.
 
I have a new DVD on order and I don't know how everything will react. Part of me doesn't know if my system will slow down a little once I get the DVD. The Navigation System is huge and takes a lot of resources to run. However, I think I found the problem and I am elated to know that my system is going to be OK.
 
I hope this helps someone but at the same time, please correct me if any of my statements are incorrect. I am new to the Honda Navigation family and my statements are merely assumptions based on my observations.
 
Once I get my new DVD, I will update this post to let everyone know how it turned out!

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