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I wuz just trying to start a little fun. Yes, GPS systems don't transmit, and therefore can't be tracked. Yes, the Odyssey system doesn't keep track of its whereabouts. My hypothetical question was very generalized, and I was just musing on when (3 years from now or 30 years?) a NAV system in a car would figure in the first criminal case. Also consider that if you get a constantly streamed updating map database (wouldn't it be cool if your NAV system knew where road work was going on and could route you around it?) you don't need to keep data on the whole country, only data that is within range of your car during the repeat cycle of the satellite. GPS receivers don't use a dish or other large reception device because the bandwidth the signal required is very small. Low bandwidth plus digital signal gets you a small receiver. *Someday* static databases will be yesterday's technology, how we get to dynamically updating databases is just fun to speculate on. |
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| trif... however the size of the antenna is related to the "frequency" used and not a bandwidth constraint.... The higher the frequency the shorter the wavelength and smaller the antenna. But yes I agree with you regarding the future... and with a litle standardization the routing around obstructions could happen today... almost all airports/ have an am radio based info channel... this could be used by the gps to key on certain frequencys and cause it to start recalculating the route.... ah the future... | |
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In case you are interested, Alpine, who makes the Odyssey Navigation system, recently put out a press release about their new after market DVD-based navigation system. It sounds similar to the Odyssey system -- it has some extra features (like connection to cell phone for dialing), but does not seem to offer a touch screen (it has a remote control, though). The text follows: (somewhat long) Alpine Launches First Aftermarket DVD-Based Navigation System In North America The DVD PowerNav System Offers Unprecedented Computing Speed and Continuous Coverage on One Disc; Raises Benchmark for In-Vehicle Navigation Systems TORRANCE, Calif., Oct. 6 /PRNewswire/ -- Alpine Electronics, the industry-leading manufacturer of high-performance mobile electronics, today announced the launch of the first aftermarket DVD-based Navigation and Information System. Alpine is the global leader in mobile navigation systems, with more than seven generations of product development and nine years marketing experience in the Japanese and European markets. Alpine is the first manufacturer to expand the North American navigation business into a two-media product strategy. With both CD-ROM and DVD-ROM-based navigation technologies in the marketplace, Alpine is the first company to offer consumers a choice of systems that now defines a category of product in North America. Similar to Alpine's award-winning CD-ROM based navigation system, the new NVE-N851A DVD PowerNav System is the most advanced in-vehicle, Global Positioning Satellite (GPS) linked computer available in North America. The DVD PowerNav system offers the same door-to-door route guidance system that allows drivers to be safer and more efficient on the road. Because of the data capacity on a DVD-ROM, Alpine is able to offer this coverage for the entire continental U.S., as well as the greater Vancouver and Toronto areas, on a single disc. The biggest advancement of the DVD-ROM platform is the software's operational speed. DVD-based navigation dramatically increases the speed-of- route calculation and off-route recalculations, making the system far more responsive in a vehicle. The DVD system operational speed is ten times faster than other navigation systems on the market. It also incorporates an embedded CD Audio technology that delivers enhanced voice guidance, including specific freeway entrance/exit names; 16:9 wide screen aspect ratio graphics; and full integration with Alpine's Mobile Mayday(TM) telematics system. "Alpine's goal is to offer the best and most powerful mobile multimedia products to consumers," said Stephen Witt, Alpine's vice president of Brand Marketing. "As the leader in navigation product development and marketing, we are committed to delivering products that are the most technically advanced yet easy to use and safe to operate in a moving vehicle. We're shifting our navigation platform to DVD to ensure we deliver the highest performance and value available to consumers. Alpine is aggressively pursuing ways to advance navigation technology and get more drivers to realize the time savings and safety benefits a navigation system can yield." The new navigation system builds on the positioning accuracy of the CD-ROM based NVA-N751AS model by gathering information from three sources to accurately display the vehicle on the map. The DVD-ROM system's GPS receiver, speed sensor and electronic gyro work in unison to provide precise vehicle positioning for accurate announcements of voice instructions. The new system utilizes a new Alpine DVD mechanism that reads a single-sided dual-layer DVD-ROM. The dual-layer DVD-ROM stores a maximum of 8.5 Gigabytes in map data and Points of Interest (POI) information. This enables the system to cover the entire continental U.S., plus Vancouver and Toronto on one disc, eliminating the need for multiple CD-ROM changes when travelling cross-country. The new features that are exclusive to the DVD PowerNav system are: -- Mobile Multitasking: Allows you to search for alternate destinations or view certain Points of Interest locations -- all without interrupting your current route's voice guidance. -- Local Point Search: Looks for points of interest surrounding the local destination. -- Enhanced Voice Guidance: Voice prompts are announced from CD-Audio files for superior clarity and specific guidance instructions. A library of entrance/exit names and numbers are stored and announced when using freeways. -- Way Points: Allows you to electronically mark certain places on the route to your destination, or can be used to customize the route you travel. -- Avoid Points: Allows you to avoid certain street or areas which is useful when navigating around specific areas or highways with known heavy traffic. -- Beep Points: Alerts you with a series of audible beeps to a specific point(s) on your drive that have been selected or want to remember. -- GPS Satellite Status Screen: All-new screen design displays not only how many satellites are being received, but also the signal strength from each satellite -- a visual representation of their relative position with respect to your vehicle and your vehicle's current directional heading. -- Trip Information Screen: All-new screen keeps track of important trip information such as distance driven, time elapsed for the current trip, system odometer (total number of miles driven since navigation system was first installed) and the total time the system has been used. Version 1.0 of the DVD Smart Map Pro software includes -- -- GUI for Drivers: Alpine's exclusive "Graphic User Interface" for drivers, designed for a safe and simple user interface in a moving vehicle. -- Destination Input by Phone Number: Entering the phone number gives you the option to call the destination, route the destination or do both simultaneously. -- Smart Key Filtering: The easiest way to input requests through your system's 10-key remote controller. Once you start inputting a destination, it quickly offers destination options that match the words you've typed. -- GPS Clock: Accurate GPS timing allows for calculation of precise arrival times, even across time zones. -- Today's Plan: This feature allows you to input and list the day's destinations (up to eight), then the system calculates the most efficient travel order for all of them. No backtracking, wasted steps, or stress. -- Map and Call: MAP allows you to confirm the destination's location on the map and view the area around it. CALL allows you to place a call to the destination with a single keystroke to the places found in the Points of Interest database or Address Book (requires optional accessories and a wireless phone). Mapping and information for the DVD PowerNav is available on a single Alpine Smart Map Pro DVD for easy loading and future upgrades. The Smart Map Pro DVD-ROM stores thousands of pre-programmed points of interest (POI) around the U.S. and parts of Canada, and will be updated to keep up with the ever-changing road systems and locations. Alpine's DVD software incorporates the Navigation Technologies (NavTech(R)) map database and the Info USA(R) points of interest/business information database for state-of-the art precision and detail. Alpine's DVD PowerNav System is available with a choice of three monitor options: the TME-C005AS Control Monitor, a new 4.6" LCD monitor with built-in control buttons; the TME-M750, a new 6.5" LCD monitor with large 16:9 wide screen display and video inputs for entertainment sources; or the CVA-1005, the flagship 6.5" wide screen motorized in-dash Mobile Multimedia Station for integrated audio, video, navigation and telematics, featuring 16:9 wide screen GUI for Drivers graphics for all sources. The DVD PowerNav, model NVE-N851A, is scheduled to ship November 1, 1999 to authorized Alpine retailers and has a Suggested Retail Index (SRI) of $2000. The SRI's for the three monitors are: TME-C005AS Control Monitor at $600; TME-M750A 6.5" Wide-Screen Monitor at $800; and the CVA-1005 Mobile Multimedia Station at $1300. About Alpine Electronics Alpine Electronics is one of the world's leading mobile electronics companies. Alpine is the only manufacturer specializing in mobile multimedia, an integrated system approach incorporating audio, video, security, telematics and navigation products for the mobile environment. With research and development facilities in Asia, Europe and the U.S., Alpine is the global leader for in-vehicle navigation systems in Japan, North America and Europe for the after-market and for OEM factory installations. Visit Alpine's Web site at www.alpine1.com to discover the future of Mobile Multimedia or call (800) ALPINE-1 for the closest dealer. |
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| Where is the DVD drive for the Nav system located? If it is under the driver's seat, is there another place for the 6-CD Changer that I also want? | |
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The disc drive for the nav is located under the passenger seat. This still allows you to place the cd changer under the drivers seat. You can't install the in dash unit, or cassette, though (unless you are removing the head unit and replacing with a cassette deck).
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I got my 2000 white EX Nav Odyssey on Thursday 10/7/99. I love it. No problems so far. The ride is smooth, the vehicle feels very nice. I don't see any problem with the audio/speakers. The nav system is nice to have...I'm enjoying it !! I found a chinese restaurant that I never knew it existed so near my home thru nav system. One minor problem/nuisance.................To my disappointment .. the touch screen is not finger mark/impression free as I had heard it earlier from a dealer. Is there a solution to that? I am not missing the audio tape at all. |
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Congratulations on your new NAV Odyssey. We really love ours as well. It is very good at getting us to places we've never been too -- even within 20 miles. The database has an extensive list of locations (thousands under OTHER), although it is often difficult to guess what name was used... As far as the screen goes -- I've never found a touch screen that didn't pick up finger marks (after all there is oil naturally on fingers). I find that disposable pre-moistened eyeglass cleaning cloths -- such as "Sight Savers" from Baush & Lomb work fine -- and I can also clean my sunglasses or glasses from the same wipe. We get them at Price/Costco for about $7 for 100 of them. Computer screen cleaners would probably work as well, but are generally more expensive. |
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Nav is a joke. Why pay $2,000 if you can get a portable GPS for less than $500??? You also need mag. glasses to look at that small screen. Would recommand the nav for old people with memory loss. |
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Have you seen the Nav option in person? If not you should check it out before throwing stones... I bought our Nav primarily for my wife, who could not use a handheld gps in a million years... not to mention, unless you have a newer one with base hwy maps, you have to know the long/lat for any spot you want to navigate too! An even with the newer units with base maps, they do not have address to address routing! And talk about small screen size! The Garman GPS III+ has a screen prob. on 1/4th the size of the nav in the Odyssey... and with something 12 levels of ZOOM, and context sensitive typing... it automatically reduces the number of keystrokes required to get to a city or street. and with voice prompt directions... I have had 2 different GPS systems, both handheld, a Garman GPS12 and a Magellan GPS300, and while they are great on my sailboat... I use them for VMG calculations... they are worthless in a car unless you have been to where you want to go before and have set a waypoint! Now for those with a laptop, and Delorme's Street Atlas with GPS, that is an economical solution! But unless you already HAD the laptop, it is not cheap or will ever be as user friendly as the Alpine system in the Nav! As far as your comment regarding memory loss... well that maybe true but at least there is a solution... but there usually is no solution for being short sighted... Oh and as for touch screen smudging... we don't seem to have a problem... but dust does collect and we use the little cloth that was provided to clean the screen, with the vehicle. |
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lietjauw: In addition to dcrisler's many reasons above, consider that the $1500 you initially saved will undoubtedly be more than made up by the body repairs (and resulting insurance rate increases) you will have from fender benders. Don't worry, you will have plenty of those if you attempt to use anything handheld while driving. Or will you be hiring a navigator too? 
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