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Mazda MPV, Nissan Quest, Kia Sedona, Chrysler Town and Country, Honda Odyssey, Toyota Sienna, Van
Jun 19, 2005 (8:44 pm)
For some reason, people seem to believe Honda or Toyota can engineer a 2 ton+ minivan that can get to 60mph under 9 seconds and achieve econo-car milage. My 18 month experiment moving from an American gas-hog SUV to a PC (2001) and loaded-up Sienna, proved disappointing. I bought the pricey Japanese minvan for a reason. . .plenty of room with the promise of 19/24MPG. O/C as I am, I recorded every tank not relying on the trip computer but dividing miles by fuel purchased. Typically, I got 16ish in town and 20+ hwy. Funny thing, my current Tahoe that weighs 10% more gets 10% lower milage. I manage 15 around town and 19 hwy in my 5000lb SUV. Perhaps the laws of physics have not changed . . .moving a heavy vehicle around with plenty of power requires fuel. My curiousity is how Chevy gets such conservative numbers while Honda/Toyota manage very optimistic ones.
Jun 21, 2005 (9:35 am)
The 01 Sienna is not as efficient as the new body style. The new one gets 2-3 mpg better on the highway.
#1062 of 1887 Re: 2005 sienna xle #7 [wiscy]
Jun 21, 2005 (9:54 am)
I would not be concerned about the low gas mileage on only your second tank. It took unitl 7-8k miles on my Quest for me to see 25-26 mpg on the highway. Each engine breaks-in differently. Some are lucky to see great gas mileage right out of the blocks. Others have to wait until 10k miles.
If you really want to be anal about this, get a small spiral notebook to keep in the glove compartment and record the mileage for each tank of gas. This is the most accurate way of keeping track of your gas mileage. I do it for my Quest and my Intrigue. I would not rely on the computer for your gas mileage.
Jun 21, 2005 (3:31 pm)
Getting 18 city and 29 highway -sounds like all minivans get about the same mileage
#1064 of 1887 2005 Dodge GC, 3.8
Jun 22, 2005 (7:11 am)
I was getting about 18-21 mpg in combination city.highway driving, up till this last tank. Then I only got a little over 17.mpg. I now have to use the a/c full time here in Phoenix. Not sure if I will see any better until it cools down some.
#1065 of 1887 Re: myth [dardson1]
Jun 27, 2005 (5:52 pm)
bought the pricey Japanese minvan for a reason. . .plenty of room with the promise of 19/24MPG. O/C as I am, I recorded every tank not relying on the trip computer but dividing miles by fuel purchased. Typically, I got 16ish in town and 20+ hwy. Funny thing, my current Tahoe that weighs 10% more gets 10% lower milage. I manage 15 around town and 19 hwy in my 5000lb SUV. Perhaps the laws of physics have not changed . . .moving a heavy vehicle around with plenty of power requires fuel. My curiousity is how Chevy gets such conservative numbers while Honda/Toyota manage very optimistic ones.
Beats me. We have an 05 Nissan Quest with 9,600 miles on it. Average mpg for the first 6,200 miles was 22.4mpg. We recently got one tank of 25.5 and one of 26.5 (428 mi, 16.1 gal). Mostly highway, as you might imagine, at speeds of 75-80.
My experience is that a lot of SUV owners are in denial. I know two guys who both have Suburbans. One says he averages 16 mpg and gets 20 mog on the highway. The other one says he averages 12 around town, 16 on the highway and has never gotten higher than 18. Go figure.
#1066 of 1887 Dodge Caravan 2005
Jun 28, 2005 (7:55 am)
With 4000 miles on it, I got lot better mpg than this winter. When I bought it in February, I got 15 mpg on highway. Now, at about 4000 miles on it, I have between 23 and 26 mpg on highway. 26 mpg, can you imagine the difference with 15 mpg? It's a lot cheaper on fuel right now (compared to February) and I'm very happy.
#1067 of 1887 Re: Never heard of that before [marine2]
Jun 28, 2005 (11:58 am)
"I never heard of any minivan getting mileage like that. How did you get that reading?"
1. Imperial gallons instead of US gallons?
2. Diesel engine, which is not available in the US.
#1068 of 1887 2004 Kia Sedona rated at 16/23 mpg, SURE
Jun 30, 2005 (1:49 pm)
My 04 Sedona averages about 13-14 mpg. Once we got 17.49 mpg on a hwy trip. Can't imagine ever getting over 20. It's never happened. Did Kia inflate these numbers??? In all other aspects I love this van. I didn't buy it for economy but it would be nice to acheive the mpg that it's rated for. It only has 7,000+ miles on it. My husband put in 3-5 extra pounds in tires to see if it would make difference and for a while we removed one back seat (3rd row.) The seats are very heavy. That didn't matter either. The last fill up we got 12.57mpg . The A/C has been on a lot but that's still no excuse. My big 93 VW Eurovan got 18 with A/C use!! We now leave the van at home on the weekends and we take his 97 VW passat TDI which gets around 45 consistently. To me it's a big waste of a new vehicle that we bought for us and the kids. I wish diesels were available in the U.S. I hear oil prices are going to top out next year at $100/barrel. Already at $60/barrel. So as I look forward to $3 and $4/gallon gas prices in the future i will maybe look for a family vehicle that I can afford to drive.
#1069 of 1887 A Honda Ad last evening
Jul 01, 2005 (12:31 pm)
run during the NBC Wimbledon coverage (Honda is the primary sponsor) asserted that the 2005 Odyssey had made a lot of improvements "and improved gas mileage" too. Obviously, they haven't been reading this forum!?!
Either that or they meant that gas mileage was "improved" from the point of view of the oil companies!