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#296 of 854 Eurovan review
Aug 21, 2001 (5:08 pm)
This one is much better, actually seeming to describe the vehicle in the title of the review.
They did an okay job of describing the history of the transporter, though they are a bit off with the naming of the things. I don't remember seeing a sticker on any "barndoors" about a 50mph speed limit. It's possible, though (early microbuses had governors on the carburetor, but I never actually saw one still used on a daily driver). In fact, I was on a SOTO caravan in the mid-80's with a 52 microbus that kept up just fine at 55-60mph, and with the 25-horse engine at that. My 67 did fine up to 70mph, but the engine lasted a lot longer between overhauls if I kept it below 65. I ususally drove it at 60.
It truly is great that VW dropped the prices of the 2001 EV by about $5K, but considering they were prepostrously priced before that, it only brought them in the range of other vans (including the dreaded "minivans") in price. Still pretty pricey for my blood, but I'm still thinking about going that route someday.
I'd also have to spring for the $1k sunroof to keep the vehicle from getting too hot inside on summer days (but I paid half that for my 67 Microbus when it was only 8 years old). My 93 EV developed a crack in the windshield last summer when it got into the high 90's for a couple of days while the windows were buttoned up. Outside layer cracked because it was a lot cooler than the inside layer. The crack is about 18 inches long now.
Heated seats? Sheez!
An MV with a weekender package would be cool, but now we're well over $30K. Yikes! I could pick up 10 to 20 1967 Transporters for that.
I just have to come out in defense of that rotating seatback adjuster, though. Ever try adjusting the seatback in a car with the conventional kind? The kind that releases the seatback so you fall suddenly if you "leave" your weight on it and don't let go of the lever quickly enough. End of comparison!
15-20mpg for a mid size van isn't all that bad, and is all you could get from a Chevy Astro. Bigger vans suck more fuel, naturally, and cars (like so-called minivans) *sometimes*
use less. No surprise there. Now if we could only get the TDI diesel, we could have 30+mpg and all that room to boot!
The rest of the review comes out pretty favorable to the EV, actually.
When I go to replace the 93 EV, I'd also like a 4x4 and a stick, so much so that I might just go ahead and bail on VW and buy a 4x4 crew cab Tacoma and use my 60 VW singlecab for hauling the big stuff. I'd truly like an old 4x4 collector vehicle instead (like about a 1988 VW Tristar), but can't see using one for long trips, so boring and new seems to be my only option.
#297 of 854 In search of
Aug 22, 2001 (8:50 pm)
I am looking to replace my Ford Expedition and think the Euro might do well. Problem is the only one around here is a very ugly White color. I know its not a pretty vehicle but I wish dealers had a better selection of these vans and especially the darker colors. I really enjoyed driving the white one but am not sure I can live with the styling. Its amazing how much room it has in a space narrower and shorter in length than my truck. It handles amzingly well and actually feels peppy. I can't seem to find much pictures of these vehicles on the web and the dealer brochure even is very unrevealing. Anyone with sites that show more pictures would be welcome.
Aug 22, 2001 (9:00 pm)
Did you see Edmunds' link to photos?
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#300 of 854 zugbrown: We lived in Laramie, Wyoming when we got our NEW 1971 VW Super Beetle
Aug 23, 2001 (3:09 pm)
We got it from Bob Brunner Volkswagen on East Grand in December 1970. We loved some features and especially the scraper Bob Brunner himself gave us to scrape the frost from the inside of the windows in the winter when the "heater" did not provide heat to defrost the inside of the windshield. For us, the firm and well designed seats in all Volkswagens were a very nice feature.
We got our next VW (a 1965 Kombi) in Neu Ulm, Deutschland. The 3rd Volkswagen was a NEW 1975 VW Rabbit from C.Pace Volkswagen in Laramie on South 15th Street since Clarence Pace had purchased the Laramie VW dealership from Bob Brunner. Got our 4th VW (used 1971 Bus) from a private party and our 5th and last, a used 1977 VW Bus in January 1979 from a VW dealer. That dealership was very incompetent and had mechanically ruined the 77 Bus. Their rotten, care less attitude tarnished the VW image. Hope you are enjoying your new Eurovan....which should give excellent service unless VW dealership mechanics ruin it.
There are some VW dealerships that have outstanding mechanics. The mechanics at a different VW dealership fixed our 77 VW Bus so it would get 30 MPG whereas it got only 11.1 MPG on the highway at 50 MPH when we got it and the selling VW Dealership told us there was nothing wrong. Be very careful with whom you trust the maintenance of your excellent new VW.
Aug 28, 2001 (11:19 am)
I am so undecided, I'm torn between which car to buy. My choices are the Hyundai tiburon, the toyota celica, the civic, the VW golf 1.8T, and the Jetta 2.0. They are all around the 18-20 thousand range. What should i do??? Theya re all nice cars, and i'm a valet so i've driven all of them, but i don't own any. I need to know what problems i'll have 3 years down the line. Any help would be appreciated. Oh and what is the difference between a 1.8L T 4a and the 5m?? thanks.
#302 of 854 pictures of mv bed
Aug 29, 2001 (12:39 pm)
I was wondering if anyone knew where I might see a photo of the fold down bed in the MV?
And/or, could any MV owners describe the bed and their opinion of it?
#303 of 854 Edmunds Reliability
Sep 08, 2001 (8:12 am)
I am looking to buy a new Eurovan. 2002's have been on dealer lots for about 3 weeks now, but no invoice prices are showing on Edmunds pages. Also, dealer tells me there is $750 dealer cash on 2001 models. Edmunds shows dealer cash in the amount of $1000 which expired 8/31/01. So, does anybody know anything about current dealer cash incentives. Apparently Edmund's is behind the times.
#304 of 854 Re Edmund's reliability.
Sep 09, 2001 (6:50 pm)
I don't think you will get any cash incentives on a 2002. You will get good prices on 2001s whether VW is giving any incentive or not. I just took possession of a 2002 Weekender today. The only difference between 2001 and 2002 models is the warranty and the depreciation factor, assuming that being able to say that a vehicle is 2002 rather than 2001 affects depreciation (in the insane auto world it does).
I expect that you could end up with pretty identical situations by getting the best price on a 2001 and then putting the difference into extended warranty insurance. The best price on a 2001 at this point should be under $29,000 for a Weekender. I paid $30,069 for my silver 2002. I could have gotten the price down to $29,069 by going about 80 miles north of Seattle. Most dealers in the Seattle area wanted somewhere between $30,500 and $31,000 for a 2002.
Sep 10, 2001 (2:55 am)
Test drove a 2001 EV and here are my impressions. Has plenty of power and the chasis handles extremely well, but it seems to have low feature content for the price range. I know VW has taken a step in the right direction by dropping prices and improving the engine output, but I still think they are a way off from offering a truly competitive model. Gripes: no tilt wheel, no leather wheel or shifters, poor radio, fixed seat that only slides fore & aft, rediculous mount for middle seats, lack of interior storage and (dare I say) cup holders, lack of curtain/head/side airbags. These features may have been endearing on the older VW models before other minivan choices were available, but they have no place being absent on a modern vehicle. I would not even look at this model if it were not for the MV with weekender option which makes this vehicle unique. Hopefully, VW will get it right in the next version of the bus coming in a year or so.