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Aug 08, 2000 (11:46 pm)
I brought my 1999 GLS Eurovan early this year
from a VW dealer and got a not too bad deal on it ($24K). The van only had 60 miles and it actually looked & smelled like a new car. I have been very pleased with my purchase since then and the van really runs great ! The more I drive it, the more internal beauty I discover about it. The thing really impressed me is about the power from the VR6: even at over 80mph the power seems like never ending upon request, and the van tracks very well on the road. The auto air-cond. really cool down things quickly (I live in PHX area) and the ABS works excellent. Give a test drive on it before you put your deposit on other minivans.
#136 of 854 Eurovan camper questions
Aug 21, 2000 (8:19 pm)
I am considering replacing my '96 Subaru Outback with a 2000 Eurovan Camper. Since moving to the west coast a few months ago, I hope to travel near and far with my young family. Have contacted Winnebago about installing a potty, but they suggested a portable one. Where would I find this? Some other questions that the dealer couldn't answer include: when traveling with pets and want to go for a hike, can I leave the air conditioning on(need to know this for those desert trips)? Does the driver seat raise? (Our '96 Golf had this standard.) Can the bed be folded out with the center bench seat installed?
Also wanted to mention that after reading many of the other Eurovan messages, that the price of $37,000 seems rather expensive when compared to other mini-vans, but not so expensive when looking at the conversion vans or even the new Eddie Bauer edition subaru. (It's the same price, and also has a waiting list in this area.) I just think one usually gets what they pay for.
Thanks to anyone who can help.
#137 of 854 camper questions
Aug 23, 2000 (7:43 pm)
While my 90 Multivan doesn't have a center seat and the Vanagon size is quite different from the Eurovan and I havn't yet seen a Camper with center seats, we have used a Sears' portable potty in our Multivan. Also don't know about leaving the AC running. Because of our special needs (we now need room for two wheelchairs in the passenger area), we have started looking at full size vans, and Sportsmobile does advertise that their aftermarket AC can be left on, using either 12 volt or 110 volt if available. You can also get a portabile potty in a Sportsmobile. You might look at their website (www.sportsmobile.com). They have a CA location. Sportsmobile did VW camper conversion starting in the 60's.
#138 of 854 Porta potties, etc.
Aug 24, 2000 (11:21 pm)
Walmart and any RV store has the portapotty. Can be had for under $50.
Eurowinnie van does not have enough room to deploy the Z-bed and also have the middle two person seat in place. Maybe you could install a rear facing jumpseat out of a Eurovan MV behind the passenger seat. This would be costly and you'd still only have seating for three (with the rear bench made into a bed.)
AC- only if you leave the engine running. Same with the Sportsmobile unless you park where you have access to 110 (normal household electricity).
FWIW I visited the Indiana Sportsmobile www.sportsmobile.com factory this week and was VERY impressed. There are so many options on these things. Definitely first rate quality. No plastic stuff like the Eurovan. Sportsmobile can get pricey, if you throw in 4wd and all the other goodies like generators. However, if you outfitted one like a Eurowinnie Camper, you could get more vehicle for the same money and have no difficulty finding parts.
#139 of 854 Sportsmobile
Aug 25, 2000 (8:53 pm)
Thanks for the responses. I have checked out the web site and am quite impressed. Unlike VW they put diagrams and photos of the vehicles they sell. Will be in Indiana for winter holidays, so will try to stop by. My husband did own a '98 Dodge quad cab before we moved, and we both liked it. It was the first and only American vehicle we have owned. Usually the suspension and handling seems a bit squooshy.
The VW brought back memories of my husbands childhood... good memories. So I wonder what his reaction to the Sportsmobile might be.
I do wonder what a Eurowinnie is... this may show my ignorance of the VW camper culture, but I'll ask anyway.
I have thought about accessing and cost of replacement parts and repairs. Our first vehicle was a Diahatsu Rocky;we loved it. (In fact, I saw the Rocky driving down the street and followed it into a parking lot to give the current owner a business card if he should ever want to sell it.) The draw back is that the company didn't do well in the US and pulled out. All of the parts have to be ordered from Japan. So thanks for reiterating this point.
#140 of 854 Reference #139 Overheating
Aug 30, 2000 (2:24 am)
I have had an overheating, or what I thought was an overheating problem with my 1993 Eurovan...let me explain. The voltage regulator in the dash circuit board was faulty and the socket the regulator connected with had cold solder joints. This I repaired myself at a cost of around $25 (symptoms were: increased temperature - according to the guage with no overheating problem present and a magical increase in the amount of fuel in the tank - according to the fuel gauge). The regulator controls these two gauges.
A real overheating problem (or at least running hotter than normal) has occurred with my van. As mentionned in post #139 there are two ceramic resistors (mistakenly called fusible links or fuses) which are supposed to lessen the initial current draw through the fan relay while the fans are spinning up to speed (the white powder mentionned is the actual ceramic/glass compound of the resistor breaking down with heat - do not touch these while the fans are running - they are extremely hot). I have had to replace both of these resistors (only available at the dealer) and the original fan relay which controls both fans (it melted because one of the resistors burned out and the remaining fan would operate non-stop trying to cool the engine). The relay was replaced with two starter relays which have proven totally reliable for over 80000 kms. This is not a recommended fix by the dealer, however I have had no trouble with it or experienced any overheating since. The temperature sensor is in the radiator itself and they very rarely cause any trouble whatsoever.
Hope this helps,
A dedicated Eurovan owner
Sep 01, 2000 (4:44 am)
Sort of derogatory. Westphalia formerly converted VW vans into campers. These are lovingly known as Westy's. (Some other American companies had also converted but the typical camper van is a Westy.)
Winnebago now converts the vans. The vans can be had as Eurovan Campers,
or Rialta campers
Some claim that fit and finish have suffered under Winnebago. (Of course some claim that only German brake pads will suffice.) I have no first hand experience with the newer vans. Winnebago does use components (ie refrigerators) for which parts and service are readily available in the US.
#142 of 854 Portapotties, 2nd row seat, tables, and AC
Sep 01, 2000 (7:32 pm)
JSREEDL asked about the above. My experience with the 1999 EuroCamper is that a Port-a-Potty fits fine in the space at the bottom center in the back. We keep it there all the time since it is lightweight.
My experience also is that the bed DOES fold down with the middle seat in place. Now my middle seat is the single seat (the 'Buddy' seat) which allows full use of the refrigerator, not the double seat.
As for leaving the engine running to keep the AC on for your pets while stopped, I do not recommend this. We tried it, only to have the Service Engine light come on and not go off for weeks. You also run the risk of the catalytic convertor causing a fire depending on where you park. Bar-B-Que puppies are not a good thing! Instead, we run two DC small fans through the auxiliary battery, park in the shade, and keep the top vent open as well as whichever screen windows open we feel safe with. We placed a thermometer inside to monitor the temperature and make sure there is plenty of cold fresh water. We also carry a small (5000 BTU) air conditioner which we can install in the front passenger window and plug in when we are near an AC electrical source. Finally, we have tinted our windows for cooler temperatures inside as well as for privacy for our dogs.
Now as far as the question of the table being near enough the back seat to be usable while the kids are still belted, be assured that the tables are fully adjustable back and forth so you can put them wherever you want; also you can use either two or just one of the tables.
Since you mentioned kids, please know that a 9 inch AC/DC color TV/VCR combination fits exactly between the two front seats, can run off the Eurovan's auxiliary battery, and is real nice when the going gets tough, if you know what I mean. Hope this information helps.
#143 of 854 2000 Eurovan Camper
Sep 14, 2000 (3:50 pm)
I'm looking to buy a 2000 Eurovan Camper in Southern California. My local VW dealer is not backing off the sticker price of 37150. They say the demand for the car is to high in San Diego to negotiate . My question is has anyone bought a 2000 Eurovan Camper in So. Cal for less and from what dealer?
#144 of 854 Eurovan mailing list
Sep 14, 2000 (8:52 pm)
I have a 95 Eurobago (the other term for the winnie conversions). we're fairly happy with it. for those searching in earnest for good maintenance, shopping, repair info & general email conversation about the eurovan, look over the user group: http://www.egroups.com/group/ev_update
it's a chatty group, but usually excellent advice.