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Pontiac Trans Sport, Pontiac Montana, Van
Mar 29, 2003 (2:56 pm)
Manufacturers advertise "5 Stars" when they earn them in testing done by the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration ( http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov ). This testing required by US federal law has nothing to do with the offset testing done by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety http://www.iihs.org ) formed by Insurance Companies. The GM vans have earned "5 stars" on some of NHTSA tests at times during the years since their introduction. A Pontiac TransSport was tested in the Fall of 1996 by the IIHS and given their worse rating.
Someone thinking about safety , may be interested in the annual "Injury, Collison, & Theft Losses" study done by the Highway Loss Data Institute (HLDI)(Available at http://www.iihs.org under the publications listing). US Federal law requires a summary of the results to be available at all dealers. The HLDI is closely associated with and funded through the IIHS. They rate compare the real world losses for vehicles in relative terms, most recently for 1999-2001 models. For "Injury" they rate the Montana "substantially better then average" (15% better then group average) and second best for mini-vans behind its sister the Oldsmobile Silhouette. As an comparison, the 2WD Isuzu Rodeo is second to last of the 18 mid-size utility vehicles 22% worse then the group average. Of 25 mid-size 4WD utility vehicles, 5 scored worse then the Rodeo which was 19% worse then the group average.
I am sorry your had bad service experiences with your Montana. Enjoy the Rodeo and the coming spring time.
Mar 30, 2003 (5:47 am)
you say they earn 5 stars with nhtsa,and can advertise this.have a look at this site,only toyota,mazda,kia,ford,honda and nissan are full of 5 stars,WOW montana has one (1)5 STAR,impact to the passanger side,the rest of the group you're talking about is the rest of the GM line-up...and the other site you mention iihs ,well montana is full of red (poor)results.by the way montana/transport was redesigned in 1997.1996 is the long nose van,nothing to do with this conversation.as far as my rodeo ,i use it to reach out of the way fishing spots,my family drives in our other car a focus(full of 5 stars).i still say they shouldn't use their 1-5 star rating in their commercials,it's deceiving.anyway make sure the most important person in your life sits in the front passanger side and you have a great summer.
Mar 30, 2003 (11:28 pm)
I think I got it correct. I said the vans received "5 stars" in SOME test at different TIMES since their redesign. The TransSpot was redesigned for the 1997 MODEL year, appearing on Dealer lots in September of 1996 and used in the IIHS test of November 1996. I also acknowledged those tests as getting the worst rating. My main point was that thay also say the vans have the lowest accident injury rating in the real world (Montana/Silhoutte). I also understand a Rodeo is not a minivan, and assumed there was more to your purhase decission. I agree with you on the advertsing angle, somewhat. In general, I believe the star system over simplifies a complex situation. My point was if earned, they can be advertised. I do not think GM (on the Vans) pushes the stars as much as other manufacturers. All advertsing is misleading in that it only points out the best features in its limited time/space. But with available research people can find information that shows a bigger picture, as you did. And don't right off the spring, I sure there will be lots of great fishing before summer.
Apr 06, 2003 (9:28 am)
i just seen another GM comercial about the rendezvous-5 stars,ya right..we should open up a new forum about false or maybe decieving advertising.i'd like to hear if their are other people out there who are just as mad as i am about this.they flash small writings at the end of the comercials to explain the 5 star rating but who can read that.i still like the Kia comercial, at less they earned it.
#821 of 1493 turn signal relay
Apr 06, 2003 (8:22 pm)
My front, passenger turn signal on a 98 Pontiac Transsport is not operating properly. I'm thinking that the relay failed. Based on the clicking noise, it sounds like the failed relay is under the dash board/steering column. Can anyone tell me which module I need to replace (I can't see any nameplates/clues to know which one is the turn signal relay)? Also is this easy to do?
Apr 15, 2003 (1:24 pm)
just seen an accident between a montana and a camry.i'll bet you the guy in the montana wished the 5 stars were really true,if he's still alive.it didn't look too good.they were still trying to get him out when i left.the lady in the camry was sitting in the police car .she looked very nervous but alright.
Apr 15, 2003 (6:57 pm)
We are in the market for a used minivan. We were considering a Transport/Montana, but now I'm not so sure after reading several pages of this board. For those of you that bought used or even new, would you recommend this minivan?
Right now, our choices for used minivan have been narrowed down to the Chevy Venture and Pontiac Montana. The Dodge minivans are everywhere, though after owning a Dodge a few years ago, I'm not sure I want to own a Chrysler again. Foreign minivans are out - too expensive and husband would kill me.
#824 of 1493 bkjohnson
Apr 16, 2003 (5:26 am)
We have a 2001 Extended Montana w/ 29000+ miles and are very happy with it. We love the dual power sliding doors and it suits us very well with two small children. We have had it in a few times for rattles and such but no major mechanicals.