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Cost Cap Reduction ---or not by pinhi
Oct 17, 2000 (12:29 pm)
I intend on leasing a new Acura MDX shortly. Being new to leasing (previously purchased my vehicles) I am not sure the proper way to handle this transaction. My original intent was to use my trade-in ($7200 94 Explorer) as a down payment to reduce my monthly payment. But after speaking with a Mercedes salesman yesterday he told me that if the car was stolen or totaled in an accident even after 1 month I would lose the money I put down.


His suggestion was to put the money ($7,200) in a refundable security deposit account with the leasing company. Doing this would reduce my monthly payments by approx. $80 per month. In effect I would be receiving 12% interest tax free.
Upon completion of the lease I would then be returned my $7,200.


Is all this true? Is it common in leases. I've been reading all I can about leasing and never heard of doing this.


Any information would be helpful.
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Acura MDX Leasing by jeffmust2
Oct 17, 2000 (3:03 pm)
Pinhi -


I am also looking at MDX leases.


American Honda Finance Corp, AHFC, offers 8.88% interest and residuals in the 64-69% area on the acura.com website. In the current buying frenzy, MDX dealers are trying to add a point or two of interest to their own, captive leasing company's rates - beware!


Another alternative I'm checking into is at my credit union. They offer a LAP - Lease Alternative Program. Check out the terms at:


http://www.centra.org/autos_lap.htm


I don't have all their details yet but it sounds interesting.


What's your experience been on shopping for MDXs?


Jeff
#86 of 23872
Lease Update by pinhi
Oct 17, 2000 (6:32 pm)
I had a chance to stop by my northern nj Acura dealer this morning to discuss lease options.


Chase Manhatten offers an "additional security deposit" option. American Honda Finance does not.


With this option you can make an additional refundable security deposit at the lease inception totaling no more than 10 payments.


Example:


Lease MDX/Tour: $525.00 Month for 42 month 12K


Leave refundable Deposit: $5250.00


New monthly payment:$475.00




You end up saving 9% tax free on your payments, plus you preserve your capital.


If you already have the money (ie from a trade-in) I feel its the much better alternative than front loading a lease. The risk of losing it all early on in the lease is too high.


I'm still going to ask questions and try and find
other alternatives as well.


As far as my buying experience...I visited most of the dealerships in the area, the salesmen did not impress me at all. Lexus and Mercedes were far and away the most professional and knowledgable.


That being said, the salesmen didn't try to pressure me at all. It was pretty much leave your money to get a place in line if you want.
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More Acura MDX Leasing info... by jeffmust2
Oct 17, 2000 (7:05 pm)
Pinhi -


I guess I'm confused how Chase's "Add'l Refundable Security Deposit" plan differs from straight cash up-front. It must be that word "refundable"....?


Chase has a rather uneven reputation in the car leasing business - if you want to laugh, have a look at this site:


http://srd.yahoo.com/goo/%22chase+bank%22/3/*http://www.chasebanksucks.com/


The Acura website's AHFC lease calculator outlines a MDX Touring 42-month lease, 12K miles a year, with no cash up-front at $567/month plus taxes. With $5250 cash up-front, the monthly payment is reduced to $422 plus tax - about $50 a month cheaper than the Chase deal. But no "refundable" word in the downpayment receipt.


The AHFC residual after 42 months is listed as $23,968 for your Touring MDX - is that about the same as Chase's?


Jeff
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NMAC Lease by flith
Oct 18, 2000 (2:02 am)
I recently received the 90 day letter on my 1998 Altima lease. I had not thought about the return process until now. Does anyone have any experiences about turning a NMAC lease in, that they would like to share? Currently I would like to "just walk away", and purchase another brand or car.
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Jeff by pinhi
Oct 19, 2000 (6:01 pm)
Thanks for your response. Great Chase link too! Since posting I've visited the dealership and talked with the business manager. Chase offers "multipile security deposits" ('MSD's) on their leasing program. American Honda does not. With Chase there
is a 10 month security payment maximum (ie lease
payment 470.00/month can leave a max. of 4700)


I was originally quoted $514/mo for 42 12k/year
By using MSD program it's $470/mo for 42 12k


Not bad. Save $44.00 and preserve the loot.


I'll probably go that route.


Kevin
 


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How much, if any ,tax to pay? by floridian
Oct 19, 2000 (10:47 pm)
car man: If I trade my leased car in to a dealer and assuming I can get enough trade-in to pay the thing off (early) will I still get the trade in value, deducted for tax purposes against the delivered price of the new car the same as if I owned the car? According to my contract if I decide to buy it for residual I will have to pay state sales tax on that amount plus "acquisition fee" Will I still have to pay that fee even tho I am not buying it but trading it? Will the dealer taking it in on trade have to pay that "acquisition fee" and thus pass it on back to me in the deal?


Floridian
#91 of 23872
Car Man - can you help answer my question by mike2000vr6
Oct 20, 2000 (6:11 pm)
Car Man - I posted a question a few weeks back and nobody has responded. Perhaps you could offer your opinion on my lease deal.


The posting is #96


Thanks in advance!
#92 of 23872
Saab 9-5 Lease Deals (gone)! by dhall64
Oct 23, 2000 (9:23 pm)
After reading a few months worth of posts I was all excited to go grab myself a Saab 9-5 wagon with the great 0.0005 money factor. Turns out the
deals ended in Sept. My local dealer has about 5
of the 2000s and I can't get into one because the
promotion is over. Oh Well. If anyone knows of
any new deals coming on the 9-5 please let me know. Thanks.
#93 of 23872
Re: How much, if any ,tax to pay? by Car_man HOST
Oct 23, 2000 (11:08 pm)
Hi Floridian, interesting question. If you are financing your current vehicle and trade it in to a dealership that then pays off your note, I believe that you will still receive the normal tax benefit of having that vehicle's value deducted from the purchase price of your new one (in states that allow this practice of course). I am not positive about this though, and tax laws do vary from state to state. Perhaps you will be able to find a more specific answer to your question by visiting the Web site for the Florida Department of Revenue. Use the following link to go to that site: State of Florida Department of Revenue.


Even if a dealership purchases your off-lease vehicle, I believe that they will still have to pay any sort of disposition, lease-end fee, or purchase option fee that you would have been responsible for had you purchased this vehicle for yourself at the end of its term. Having said that, whether or not this fee gets passed on to you will probably depend upon the specific dealership that you visit. If there is enough profit baked into your deal there is probably a very good chance that they will not pass any charges on to you, but if you have a really skinny deal then they may hit you up for any additional money.


Car_Man
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