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Re: Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy GT [dwynne] by mlrtime
Mar 29, 2005 (1:58 pm)

Replying to: dwynne (Mar 29, 2005 1:46 pm)

Dennis, thanks for the reply.
 
I read your previous post of this Legacy lease deal. The only lease offers I see on subaru.com are for the forester, impreza, and baja in my zip (NJ).
Maybe it is not for my zip code, nothing is mentioned about leases on www.cars101.com either.
 
Thanks,
mlr
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Re: Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy GT [mlrtime] by dwynne
Mar 29, 2005 (2:02 pm)

Replying to: mlrtime (Mar 29, 2005 1:58 pm)

Go to
 
http://www.edmunds.com/incentives/step1.jsp
 
and put in your zip and see if it comes up. I tried 08818 and it showed me the same 24 month lease deal.
 
Dennis
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Re: [kyfdx] [Car_Man] Ordering a 330Ci Conv. for ED tomorrow.. [kyfdx] by love330conv
Mar 29, 2005 (2:05 pm)

Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 29, 2005 7:57 am)

Thanks kyfdx for clarifying. Yes I am ordering (actually ordered today!) a 330Ci convertible. The dealer has quoted .0018, which is consistent with what you said. I have assumed that this is the base. Dealer is asking for $825 as acq. fee ($200 markup) and $550 as security deposit. Are these 'normal' numbers?
 
New question: If I have some cash lying around with me, can I use it to pay upfront and reduce cap. cost? Or is there another mechanism to put some cash (say $10k) to good use while leasing?
 
Thanks to you guys!
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Re: [kyfdx] [Car_Man] Ordering a 330Ci Conv. for ED tomorrow.. [kyfdx] [love330conv] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 29, 2005 (2:19 pm)

Replying to: love330conv (Mar 29, 2005 2:05 pm)

1) I'd try to get that acq.fee down to $625.
 
2) The security deposit is your payment rounded up to the next $50 increment..
 
3) BMW has a "multiple security deposit" program.. In return for making extra MSDs, they will lower the money factor.. I think you can make up to five additional security deposits and each one lowers the money factor by .0005
 
For example, if you made an extra 5 security deposits ($2750), it would lower the money factor to .00155, saving you about $20/month including tax... Not a bad return on $2750.. about 8-9%.
 
You get the security deposits back at the end of the lease..
 
Other than that, just leave your extra money in the bank.. If you make a cap cost reduction, that money is at risk, if the car is stolen or totaled...
 
Or, just buy the car and use the money as a downpayment?
 
regards,
kyfdx
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05 Honda Pilot EX-L w\RES...good deal? by ltrain
Mar 29, 2005 (2:26 pm)
i am interested in leasing a Honda Pilot w\ EX-L pckge and RES
in north NJ for 36 mo\ 15k yr.
i was offered a quote by one dealership for
$1k at sign for $500 mo\ w\tax, and they are willing to pay off the remaining 2 payments on my A4 for $1050.
how does it sound compared to other Pilot leases in my area?
any feedback would be appreciated
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Lease Residual/Conditional Sales Contract by brass1
Mar 29, 2005 (3:06 pm)
Is a residual of $250 with a cap cost of $5995 a conditional sales contract? And what law does this break
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Re: Questions on 2005 Honda Accord EX Lease... [ar831] by dwynne
Mar 29, 2005 (3:55 pm)

Replying to: ar831 (Mar 29, 2005 12:50 pm)

The guy from Jersey Honda answered my e-mail and said he could sell/lease you the EX I4 auto for under invoice "no problem".
 
He (of course) wants to seal the deal by the end of the month (don't they all). In this case, the current Honda lease deal expires then - it might be LESS next month, might be the same, might be HIGHER - I have no idea. Honda could discontinue the current dealer money and the price could go up next month too - or they could increase it and the price goes down.
 
Anyway, send me an e-mail to y2k_c5 (insert at sign here) yahoo.com and I will forward this guy's cell and e-mail info to you if you want to try to pursue it.
 
The EX lease deals calls for a pre-negotiated price of $21,817.82 - about $600 over what is supposed to be invoice. With a $1499 cap cost redcution the payments are $249/36. Getting the car under invoice (say $20,500) would mean you can put down $181 or so rather than $1499 - which is a heck of a better deal. You could still put down $1499 (I would not) and get the payments a lot lower.
 
You could also go to carsdirect.com and put in your zip code (I used 10001) and the quote for the I4 EX w/auto is $20,513 from them. It may end up being from the same dealer, or another in the NYC area.
 
Dennis
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2005 Nissan Altima 2.5S by andyhiggs
Mar 29, 2005 (4:28 pm)

Replying to: brass1 (Mar 29, 2005 3:06 pm)

Hey Car_man, I just wanted to thank you for all the information you provided me on all of the different cars. Although I don't think I'm a great negotiator it definitely helps to know the MF and residual's on the cars so you can figure out how "screwed" you're getting.
 
I pulled the trigger this weekend and got a 2005 Nissan Altima 2.5S. It came with the Convenience Plus package, ABS, Side-impact and side curtain airbags, etc. The MSRP was $24,010. I ended up getting a 24 month, 15,000 mile lease for $279/month after tax. I put no money down. My out-of-pocket expense was $470 for the doc. fee and first month's payment. Didn't realize I was getting 15,000 miles each month until I was signing the papers. I didn't bother arguing. Maybe I should've and would've gotten a cheaper deal. Based on the residual of 69% and MF of .00060, if I got the car at invoice I was going to pay $276/month after tax so I felt my payment was good. Think I got a good deal?
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Re: [kyfdx] [Car_Man] Ordering a 330Ci Conv. for ED tomorrow.. [kyfdx] [love330conv] [kyfdx] by love330conv
Mar 30, 2005 (12:05 am)

Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 29, 2005 2:19 pm)

1) I'll try to get the acq fee down to $625. Since I decided to lease as an after thought (after the final price was negotiated and verbally placed the ED order), they may not agree. As such, the salesman says that at $625, the Finance guy at dealership makes NOTHING. I think it's BS, as BMWFS must be giving a portion of base acq fee of $625 back to the dealer for doing the paper work. What do you say?
 
3) The MSD program is certainly interesting and will make good use of my $2750. 8-9% tax free return is great ! Thanks for informing about it. I hope the dealer cannot say NO to the MSD program.
 
I agree that reducing cap cost is not worth it (given the risk).
 
NEW QUESTION: When I thought, all my questions were answered - I seemed to have found a new one! Here it is:
- The MF (.0018) and residual (63%) are for the month of March. For my ED pickup of May 3rd, I need to sign the lease sometime in April. Does it mean I have to somehow "lock" these numbers? Or I have to actually sign lease docs to lock the rate? Or April numbers should be same anyway? Or do we already know April numbers? (I guess not). How does it all work and what would you recommend? Somewhere it was mentioned that I could choose March or May rates. Is that correct? Do we know future numbers?
 
Thanks as always.
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Re: 05 Odyssey EXL R&N Lease by Car_man HOST
Mar 30, 2005 (3:56 am)
Hi kkj. If you were to lease a 2005 Honda Odyssey EX-L with the rear entertainment system and navigation through American Honda FInance Corp. right now for 3 years with 15,000 miles per, its base lease money factor and residual value should be .00225 and 53%. These numbers assume that you qualify for its top credit tier and that you pay a security deposit. Using the above numbers, an MSRP of $35,695, and a selling price of $34,240, I estimate that this van should have a zero down, pre-tax monthly payment of around $546.
 
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