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Re: Questions on 2005 Honda Accord EX Lease... [ar831] by dwynne
Mar 29, 2005 (12:46 pm)

Replying to: ar831 (Mar 29, 2005 12:08 pm)

You sound like my wife The LX is a better deal lease-wise, but she would prefer the EX with the moonroof....
 
Where are you located? You might check into the "Honda Accord: Prices Paid" forum here and do a search for other folks in your area and see what they are paying and from whom.
 
For example, a dealer in NJ is advertising the LX I4 auto for $17,403 + $515 destination + $198 doc fee. My invoice info shows that car as costing the dealer $19,034 so even if they are getting the $600 dealer money I don't see how they can sell the car that cheap. Dealers in the "Chicagoland" area are known to sell under invoice as well.
 
Dennis
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Re: Questions on 2005 Honda Accord EX Lease... [dwynne] by ar831
Mar 29, 2005 (12:50 pm)

Replying to: dwynne (Mar 29, 2005 12:46 pm)

Dennis,
I am in NYC. I REALLY want the EX =o), so enough talk about the LX ;o). I am moving to another state soon that is warm and sunny so thats why i want my moon roof. Do you think the deal above is good or at least average for the EX? I dont know much about car pricing and negotiating but im willing to learn. Thanks! =o)
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Re: Questions on 2005 Honda Accord EX Lease... [ar831] by dwynne
Mar 29, 2005 (1:12 pm)

Replying to: ar831 (Mar 29, 2005 12:50 pm)

You are in luck, then. Jersey Honda (which seems to also be known as Open Road) in Edison is the one advertising the LX sedans on ebay for below dealer cost. I sent their Internet rep an e-mail to ask what they could do on an EX I4 auto sedan. If they can give you a price below invoice on that one too, that would really sweeten the lease deal - pretty much remove the cap cost reduction in the deal and get the same payment. Or put down the money for an even lower payment.
 
AHFC will lease in NY, but you pay something like double the acquisition fee the rest of us pay.
 
One thing to note: some states have a "pay the taxes on a lease up front" law and other states are "pay as you go" (adding the tax to the monthly payment). I am pretty sure NY is monthly - you could get into a tax hassle if you move to another state that wants the taxes up front. Someone posted recently about doing the opposite - they leased in VA or someplace and paid all the taxes up front, then moved to NY and had to pay tax on the lease payment ALSO! Just something to think about.
 
Also you would save the extra acq fee dollars in any state other than NY....
 
Dennis
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Re: BMW 325 and 330 Covertible [evan7578] by dwynne
Mar 29, 2005 (1:37 pm)

Replying to: evan7578 (Mar 29, 2005 10:23 am)

325ic 36 mo/45k 0.00150 60% (62% for 36k)
330ic 36 mo/45k 0.00150 61% (63% for 36k)
 
Having driven both, I much prefer the Z4 to the 3 series convertible (if you can stand the looks). The 3 series back seat is not big enough for anyone to ride in anyway
 
Dennis
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Re: Questions on 2005 Honda Accord EX Lease... [ar831] by dwynne
Mar 29, 2005 (1:41 pm)

Replying to: ar831 (Mar 29, 2005 10:14 am)

BTW, the "add on insurance" for $17 extra a month does not sound right. Check with your insurance company and ask them about gap coverage on a lease car. My company (State Farm) automatically includes gap converage if you tell them you have a lease car. Some lease banks include it in the lease "for free" as well.
 
Unless you can't get it elsewhere, it sounds like way too much money for insurance to me - $612 over the life of the lease.
 
If you deal down the price of the car, you should be OK as far as insurance value VS buyout value anyway. That is the main reason folks always say to pay nothing out of pocket for a lease - if the car is totalled or stolen you lose your "investment".
 
Dennis
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Re: Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy GT [mlrtime] by dwynne
Mar 29, 2005 (1:46 pm)

Replying to: mlrtime (Mar 29, 2005 10:31 am)

Suburu has a published lease deal for the GT wagon auto of $418 a month for 24 months/24k miles. $2,500 cap cost reduction, $0 security deposit. So I know they will do the deal, but car_man will have to tell you the MF and residual pct. Usually 3 years is the sweet spot in the lease curve- but you never know until you get the numbers.
 
Dennis
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Re: Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy GT [dwynne] by mlrtime
Mar 29, 2005 (1:58 pm)

Replying to: dwynne (Mar 29, 2005 1:46 pm)

Dennis, thanks for the reply.
 
I read your previous post of this Legacy lease deal. The only lease offers I see on subaru.com are for the forester, impreza, and baja in my zip (NJ).
Maybe it is not for my zip code, nothing is mentioned about leases on www.cars101.com either.
 
Thanks,
mlr
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Re: Re: 2005 Subaru Legacy GT [mlrtime] by dwynne
Mar 29, 2005 (2:02 pm)

Replying to: mlrtime (Mar 29, 2005 1:58 pm)

Go to
 
http://www.edmunds.com/incentives/step1.jsp
 
and put in your zip and see if it comes up. I tried 08818 and it showed me the same 24 month lease deal.
 
Dennis
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Re: [kyfdx] [Car_Man] Ordering a 330Ci Conv. for ED tomorrow.. [kyfdx] by love330conv
Mar 29, 2005 (2:05 pm)

Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 29, 2005 7:57 am)

Thanks kyfdx for clarifying. Yes I am ordering (actually ordered today!) a 330Ci convertible. The dealer has quoted .0018, which is consistent with what you said. I have assumed that this is the base. Dealer is asking for $825 as acq. fee ($200 markup) and $550 as security deposit. Are these 'normal' numbers?
 
New question: If I have some cash lying around with me, can I use it to pay upfront and reduce cap. cost? Or is there another mechanism to put some cash (say $10k) to good use while leasing?
 
Thanks to you guys!
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Re: [kyfdx] [Car_Man] Ordering a 330Ci Conv. for ED tomorrow.. [kyfdx] [love330conv] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 29, 2005 (2:19 pm)

Replying to: love330conv (Mar 29, 2005 2:05 pm)

1) I'd try to get that acq.fee down to $625.
 
2) The security deposit is your payment rounded up to the next $50 increment..
 
3) BMW has a "multiple security deposit" program.. In return for making extra MSDs, they will lower the money factor.. I think you can make up to five additional security deposits and each one lowers the money factor by .0005
 
For example, if you made an extra 5 security deposits ($2750), it would lower the money factor to .00155, saving you about $20/month including tax... Not a bad return on $2750.. about 8-9%.
 
You get the security deposits back at the end of the lease..
 
Other than that, just leave your extra money in the bank.. If you make a cap cost reduction, that money is at risk, if the car is stolen or totaled...
 
Or, just buy the car and use the money as a downpayment?
 
regards,
kyfdx

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