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You're welcome, rbarone. In order for me to calculate a lease payment on this truck for you, I need you to tell me its full MSRP including destination, its selling price, how long you want the lease to be for, and how many miles per year you need to be able to drive it. Car_man Host Smart Shopper Forum
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Here you go, Nick. If you were to lease a 2005 Audi A4 1.8T Cabriolet through Audi Financial Services right now for 3 years with 12,000 miles per, its base lease money factor and residual value should be .00200 and 59%, respectively. Car_man Host Smart Shopper Forum |
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You are correct, Jeff. The advertisements that you have seen from independent banks, like Capital One, advertising low interest rates, such as 4%, are for conventional loans. Their lease rates would most likely be different. I am not personally familiar with leasewizard.com or leasecompare.com, but I personally doubt that they provide consumers with accurate information on what the actual lease programs from manufacturers' captive finance companies are like on vehicles. You would be better off saving your money and using the lease calculator that is available here at Edmunds.com and the information that you are able to get from this forum. Car_man Host Smart Shopper Forum |
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Hi dzuba. Let's work up a sample lease payment on a similar van to the one that you are considering and see what we come up with. The MSRP, including destination, of a 2005 Honda Odyssey EX w/ DVD and Nav is currently around $34,610. A selling price of $1,500 below this would be $33,110. Using these numbers, if you were to lease this van through American Honda Finance Corp. right now for 3 years with 15,000 miles per, its zero down, zero security deposit, pre-tax monthly payment would be around $510. As you can see, this payment is much lower than the one that you were quoted, so something definitely is not right. Perhaps the dealer that you are working with is marking-up AHFC's lease program to add additional back-end profit to your deal. I used a money factor of .00260 and a residual value of 57% to arrive at this payment. Car_man Host Smart Shopper Forum |
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Greetings satturngirl. You leased a Toyota Matrix for five and a half years?!? I didn't even think that most banks would lease a vehicle for that long. I am sorry to say that it is probably going to be very expensive for you to get out of your lease this early. In order to do so, you need to purchase your leased vehicle from the bank that you are leasing it through, at what often turns out to be a higher price than it is worth on the open market, and either sell it on your own or trade it in. To make matters even worse, many banks require their lessees to make all, or at least a significant portion, of their remaining payments on leased vehicles that they want to get out of early. As you can see, it often is very expensive to get out of leased vehicles early. It is almost always in consumers' best interest to wait until they are as close as possible to the scheduled end of their lease to get a new vehicle. I am sorry that I don't have better news for you. Car_man Host Smart Shopper Forum |
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Hello rbru. It is difficult for me to evaluate this lease without knowing this truck's full MSRP and selling price. If you provide me with these numbers, I will tell you exactly what I think of the price that you were quoted and will work a sample lease program on this model using Toyota's actual lease program that you can compare to the payment that you have already been quoted. Car_man Host Smart Shopper Forum |
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Hi again joe44. The lease money factor and residual value that you were quoted for this truck are right on the money. That is always a good thing. It is difficult for me to comment on the selling price that you were quoted without knowing this truck's full MSRP, including destination charges. Not only will this number tell me what sort of a discount you are being given, it will also enable me to calculate a lease payment on this truck to compare to the one that you have been quoted. I believe that the Pilot's residual values are the same for the EX with leather and the EX with the rear entertainment system. If you add the navigation system, the residual would drop another point. In order for me to give me an idea of what Nissan's lease program is currently like on the 2005 Pathfinder, I need you to tell me exactly which model you are interested in, i.e. and XE 2WD, a LE 4WD, etc... Car_man Host Smart Shopper Forum |
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Hi cpeterson3. The down payments on leased vehicles are always negotiable. Consumers are free to lease whichever new or used vehicle they would like without making any sort of capitalized cost reduction. In fact, it is in your best interest not to put any money down when leasing. Eliminating the down payment from an advertised lease will however increase the monthly payment, unless you can negotiate an equivalent discount in the car or truck's selling price. The problem with leasing used vehicles, or in this case releasing a vehicle that you have already leased once, is that the level of support that many manufacturers' provide on their used vehicle lease programs significantly lags the level of support that they provide on their new vehicle lease programs. This is because automakers derive a much larger benefit from supporting new vehicle leases, enabling them to sell more vehicles and keep their factories humming than they do from the slight boost in residual values used vehicle lease programs provide. I have seen cases where it was actually possible for a consumer to lease an equivalent brand new vehicle than it was for them to re-lease their current one. Manufacturers' exact used vehicle lease programs vary from company to company and even from month to month, so it is difficult for me to generalize about how much it would cost you to continue leasing your current vehicle after your original lease on it expires. Car_man Host Smart Shopper Forum |
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I've been offered the following lease deal: 2005 Honda Pilot EX-Leather MSRP - $32,120 Down Pmt - $2,645 Monthly Pmt - $400 per mo / 36 mo Residual/Purchase Price $19,600 12,000 mi/year (.15 mi over) I noticed that Joe44 got a "seemingly" better deal. Are lease/purchases negotiable? |
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Replying to: suebeedux (Jan 16, 2005 6:43 pm) Also, how much should I be paying over invoice for this car (totally loaded with DVD, sticker $55,400)? The demand seems pretty low. I don't see any on the road. Thanks
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